...off in a huff.
Apparently he's stormed out of the post match press conference.
I would love him to explain why even a player like Silva has develoepd a habit of not playing the early pass, taking a turn backwards and holding up play. I suspect because he now knows tere will be no players ahead of him other than Aguero who will be heavily marked by the opposition. No misfield runners, no overlapping defenders. I would also like him to explain why our passing is so shit now.
Best thing now is for him to step down, best for all parties.
I didn't at the time think that the Guardiola announcement would make much difference but it obviously has. If we weren't in the quarter-finals of the champions league I think he'd go now.
I don't think there is any excuse for him. His decisions are very strange a lot of the time.
Quote from: Ludo on March 20, 2016, 18:58:17
I didn't at the time think that the Guardiola announcement would make much difference but it obviously has. If we weren't in the quarter-finals of the champions league I think he'd go now.
Pellers forced the announcement
Perhaps he did but it's definitely had a detrimental effect on our season.
I think it has had very little impact. The causes are poor form of players, a number of key injuries and poor managerial decisions. I don't think that the players aren't trying. That decision isn't causing injuries. I think the manager is making his own decisions with best intentions.
Quote from: gavin on March 20, 2016, 20:55:04
I think it has had very little impact. The causes are poor form of players, a number of key injuries and poor managerial decisions. I don't think that the players aren't trying. That decision isn't causing injuries. I think the manager is making his own decisions with best intentions.
I agree with the gest of that, but the managers wrong decisions and tactics send out the wrong message to players.
Pelle is now paying for that policy and seeing poor performances from underperforming players who do not feel under threat to perform under his reign.
Tactically we are one dimensional and too slow and deliberate, lacking pace in attack and purpose. Pelle again has shown he will not give youth a chance, even today when we are desperately short of players, Kelechi and Adarbioyo sitting on the bench and sitting at home. That is an absolute disgrace and a failure of a failed manager. Meanwhile a walking disaster and a statue play, one from the start and the other as our last roll of the dice replacing the walking disaster too late. Just awful decisions by a stubborn failed manager.
Was any City fan that surprised by that dreadful showing today?
Quote from: gavin on March 20, 2016, 20:55:04
I think it has had very little impact. The causes are poor form of players, a number of key injuries and poor managerial decisions. I don't think that the players aren't trying. That decision isn't causing injuries. I think the manager is making his own decisions with best intentions.
I agree and go so far as to say the signs were showing last season that were not corrected and have only grown worse.
Yes key injuries have taken their toll but some of the players that have been brought in over the last 2 years do not have that winning mentality or skill to push the team forward and yet these are picked time and time again.
Annoying and there seems to be no reaction from most of the players.
Yaya as captain is a shocking decision.
It is a mess, and has got worse since the Pep annojncement without a doubt. The i juries also have got worse making an overall carcrash which nobody can see improving over the remaining games.. We just have to hope it doesnt get too embarrassing.
Im looking for a strong side against PSG with returning players and a bit of drive, a good result in Paris will be a great lift
He's a great manager, he's managed to completely fuck up Mancini's great team
I'm as pissed off with Pellegrini's team choices and tactics as much as anyone - but I can't shake the impression that he has had only a very limited say in the players we've bought in the last couple of years.
Maybe so, anyway its worth noting that if the rags keep winning against the big teams, Van gaal could well get another season!!! Not all bad today then
Quote from: gavin on March 20, 2016, 20:55:04
I think it has had very little impact. The causes are poor form of players, a number of key injuries and poor managerial decisions. I don't think that the players aren't trying. That decision isn't causing injuries. I think the manager is making his own decisions with best intentions.
This is what I've been trying to say. To my eyes we've been going slowly, but steadily downhill since the beginning of
last season (long, long before Pep's possible arrival loomed on the horizon). There have been a few 'peaks' here and there, but the general trend has been downhill.
Pellegrini certainly has some dreadful blind-spots, which have left us seemingly moribund and stuck in a tactical rut. But undoubtedly injuries, and (to some extent) poor form and poor player acquisition are not all down to him, and they have little to do with the Pep situation IMO.
Bottom line: For all the money recently spent I don't think we have enough shots in the locker (and a fair few duds). This is a right multi-layered mess of shit we've got ourselves into and we're going to have to find some fight to crawl our way out.
For me the players seem to have no real passion for this club, (with a couple of exceptions)
The team looks to have very little desire to win, if you add this to his baffling tactics
Its mostly down to him, his job is to get the team firing and wanting to go out there and win....massive fail............. and pick the right players to tactically win the game
Today he allowed United to play to their one strength, speed, by leaving gaps in our midfield and playing an old statue in defense when Sagna couldve played there
I honestly think City would struggle in the Oz A league right now
Quote from: nimrod on March 21, 2016, 01:44:37
For me the players seem to have no real passion for this club, (with a couple of exceptions)
The team looks to have very little desire to win, if you add this to his baffling tactics
Its mostly down to him, his job is to get the team firing and wanting to go out there and win....
There does seem to be a lack of desire amongst some of the players. For me, a lot of the time they don't work hard enough for
each other (never mind Pellers).
But having said that - what puzzles me is that all the noises coming out of the club these past couple of seasons have been all about how popular with 'everyone' Pellegrini is supposed to be. Players all say they like him. This charming man blah, blah, blah...
So why don't they PLAY for him?
Most games these days, I usually catch myself thinking at some point (as yet another move breaks down with a shit pass) -"The players don't know where each other are. They look poorly organised, hesitant and lacking in confidence. The players don't know what to do!"
Quote from: Rowley Birkin QC on March 21, 2016, 01:59:23
There does seem to be a lack of desire amongst some of the players. For me, a lot of the time they don't work hard enough for each other (never mind Pellers).
But having said that - what puzzles me is that all the noises coming out of the club these past couple of seasons have been all about how popular with 'everyone' Pellegrini is supposed to be. Players all say they like him. This charming man blah, blah, blah...
So why don't they PLAY for him?
Most games these days, I usually catch myself thinking at some point (as yet another move breaks down with a shit pass) -"The players don't know where each other are. They look poorly organised, hesitant and lacking in confidence. The players don't know what to do!"
Maybe they like him because they get an easy ride, unlike Mancini who made them work .
I cant imagine how the Sheikh must be feeling, all this money and were very shit. Most of the players are worth a mere fraction of what he paid.
Our Arab friends will be very pissed off if we don't make top four and the Chumps League. It's not about the money for them (obviously) - it's about profile and brand exposure. That's why they bought the club in the first place.
I can't make up my mind it it's lack of motivation in the players (Pellers is 'too nice', to use your argument nimmers), or the players don't actually understand what is expected of them (Pellers can't coach/manage), or some of the players simply aren't capable of doing what is expected of them (they're a lot shitter than their price tags and pre-City reputations suggested).
Could be a combination of all three.
Cabellero & Demichelis are Def pellegrini signings.
I think Delph & sterling have been forced on us due to the HG rule. I like Delph but too injury prone and Sterling still has age on his side
the team is lacking all over the pitch now as before we could carry Bony and a couple of others
Maybe if Kidd took over until the end of the season things might improve
After the championship winning season of 2014 we might have been in a bit of a decline but we still managed to finish 2nd to a very good and rejuvenated Chelsea team last time out. Our deterioration over the last few months has been nothing short of disastrous.
Yes we've been plagued by injuries but that doesn't stop those players selected playing with a bit of heart and passion; it doesn't stop Pellegrini selecting the odd youth team player when appropriate. Take this game for example. United's biggest threat was pace, so why does Pellegrini select de Michelis? Possibly because he doesn't really care what happens anymore. But having been selected doesn't mean he can't put a bit of effort in, maybe take a yellow by putting rashface in the air first opportunity he gets.
And poor as de Michelis was it was our slow and labourious play up front that was more of a problem. Silva looks like he doesn't want to be there anymore and Bony looks like he never wanted to be there. I know Silva's playing with an ankle injury but that shouldn't affect his ability to pass the ball a little quicker (maybe avoiding the tackles that brought the injury in the first place) and I know Bony had malaria but if he's deemed fit to play it shouldn't affect his ability to trap a ball, shoot straight or recognise what colour shirt his team mates play in.
Quote from: Ludo on March 21, 2016, 08:47:58
I know Silva's playing with an ankle injury but that shouldn't affect his ability to pass the ball a little quicker (maybe avoiding the tackles that brought the injury in the first place)
Maybe it does? I'd say he's playing at about 75% of his top form level. Most of his current game looks more than a little laboured - and yes, his decision making is laboured as well. There's something clearly bothering him.
Worth a read this -
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35858149 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35858149)
Over 50 injuries this season have not helped but any manager who can pick Bony and MDM is a fool or is not bothered
He has finished MDM now with the nervous comments so he will not kick a ball again for City.
Bony over Inacho is a disgrace. That bloke has been robbing a living since he arrived.
Utd play youth, why don't we.
I despair that we have some games left this season
I would put a decent amount of cash on Demi playing again this season. Bony will also stay ahead of Nacho. Too bloody stubborn old man.
Demi out of necessity I imagine: Though Tosin could do with a bit of experience
it's not just the rag match demi has been shit it's every time he's played most goals scored against us have been down to him being dogshit..im with alex..i hope we never see him a city shirt again!
remember the level of abuse richard edghill took at a match at maine road when got took off..poor guy didnt deserve that but demi does...fuckin smiling all the time when he's shit
I don't think he deserves any stick. He does his best. His best has often not been good enough though. I tend to think we were rather fortunate it all fell together at the back for the end of the 13/14 season.