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citymancs => citymancs => Topic started by: gavin on November 12, 2022, 11:35:28

Title: v Brentford
Post by: gavin on November 12, 2022, 11:35:28
XI | Ederson, Stones, Akanji, Laporte, Cancelo, Rodrigo, De Bruyne, Gundogan (C), Bernardo, Haaland, Foden

SUBS | Ortega Moreno, Dias, Phillips, Grealish, Alvarez, Gomez, Mahrez, Palmer, Lewis

The beast is back.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: Stephen Paul on November 12, 2022, 11:37:05
Strong team
Good to see Foden start
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: gavin on November 12, 2022, 13:22:35
Need to buck up second half. It wasn't a surprise when they scored. Great strike from Phil after a poor half from him.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: Stephen Paul on November 12, 2022, 13:24:04
Hopefully keep the tempo up now and an early goal second half
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: KunDB on November 12, 2022, 13:28:46
Starting 'sleepy Joe' mode is becoming an ingrained habit these days in the Premier League.

Need to keep the tempo up Second half.

Brentford over physical
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: The Blue Blooded Maniac on November 12, 2022, 14:31:22
Why do we aimlessly pass the ball around the corners of the box with every one stood in the box waiting for a cross? Genuine question cos it baffles me.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: lee on November 12, 2022, 14:32:00
Piss poor that.
Heads already in Qatar
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: KunDB on November 12, 2022, 14:35:05
We never looked like winning. As Lee said World Cup Itis without doubt.

Very physical Brentford but very deserving too.   

It has been coming as in general we have been poor at home despite our record of 7 wins. Our defending has been poor this season and we are rubbish at set pieces this year.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: lee on November 12, 2022, 14:37:57
Cancelo is turning into a bit of  a pleb
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: silvablue on November 12, 2022, 14:42:02
Cancelo has been poor this season.

The score actually flattered us as it could easily have been 4 1 for Brentford. Apart from the Foden goal we did not create many real chances.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: Stephen Paul on November 12, 2022, 14:45:10
Very poor today

Should have been hammered
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: gavin on November 12, 2022, 14:51:05
City were bad today. The referee had no interest in there being a game of football.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: Hesperus on November 12, 2022, 14:55:07
Oh dear. Complacent? Eyes on World Cup?

I don't think we've been that good this season. Haalands goals have saved us. The defence and goalie haven't been good enough.

Arsenal now with a real advantage in the title race, they've played much harder games than us too.

Boredom now until after Xmas!
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: KunDB on November 12, 2022, 15:03:14
The multiple stoppages didn't help us, but no excuse we simply were not good enough outplayed and out worked by Brentford.

Sour taste is defeat going into the World Cup.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: Victoria on November 12, 2022, 15:36:56
 That performance has been coming over the last month: can't complain: well played Brentford!
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: Neil Mcnab on November 12, 2022, 17:36:00
A bag of shit. Understandable but unprofessional if they were worried about knocks for the let down by Southgate show.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: jingoe on November 12, 2022, 20:42:27
Right from the kick off Brentford went route 1 and bullied us . Pep is always reluctant to change things up with subs. Appalling miss by Gundo too
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: Stephen Paul on November 13, 2022, 03:41:24
A poor day all round but onwards and upwards

The Xmas period will set the stone
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: bbk on November 13, 2022, 17:33:01
This has been coming. We have been very poor this season. Strike me down for blasphemy, but I think there is a link between Haaland and the team being poor. I think he has disrupted a well-functioning team and, conversely, his goals have masked how poor the collective have been this season. "We'd have won that game if we had a number 9" won't fly any more.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: KunDB on November 13, 2022, 20:13:39
Quote from: bbk on November 13, 2022, 17:33:01
This has been coming. We have been very poor this season. Strike me down for blasphemy, but I think there is a link between Haaland and the team being poor. I think he has disrupted a well-functioning team and, conversely, his goals have masked how poor the collective have been this season. "We'd have won that game if we had a number 9" won't fly any more.

I have thought the same Gavin, but when I analyse it further, I feel it is all a part of the bedding in process for have such a potent tip on our spear now (a hugely successful and prolific number 9). The team has to adjust and adjust massively from last season. They have to get to know him, and he has to get to know them. He means a loss of a player in midfield essentially so less control and less options to penetrate the usual brick wall defences. They also importantly have to learn to adjust using him especially when he is double and physically marked like yesterday. The team has to take responsibility to themselves to score and to exploit the space that the double marking creates, and he has to learn how to drag his close markers around to create more space for his teammates to exploit. That did not happen yesterday or in some previous games as well. It takes time to gel, but in the second part of the season I can see that happening because these players are so talented.

Yesterday, was also impacted by players playing at 90% saving themselves, consciously or sub-consciously, for the world cup and understandably so. Brentford exploited this by being physically aggressive and it paid off big time.
Title: Re: v Brentford
Post by: gavin on November 13, 2022, 21:08:02
We are having to operate with one less player in our possession game a lot of the time so he is certainly having some impact in that. However, we had the same number of points after 14 games last season. He has clearly also had a very positive impact in many ways. Hopefully, we will improve in the second half of the season again. I tend to think that just too many players played badly on Saturday. I wouldn't point out individuals. There is a long list of players that didn't perform to their usual standards, particularly with regards to poor passing.

It also must be said that Brentford did a good job of stifling us and had a fair amount of fortune. I don't agree that they deserved to win but they broke very effectively it has to be said.