Man City earn significant victory in PL legal dispute via @Onefootball. Read it here:
https://onefootball.com/editorial/40088229?language=en
This has fook all to do with the 115 thing, am I right?
haven't a bloody clue
bloody oil money :D
Who gives a shite Stevie. We'll just dish out some brown envelopes and sweep it all under the rug 😁
If true it's a massive win. As far as I know, City challenged the actual legality of the proposal. I mean, how can you cut off obvious choices for sponsors. It just means that the PL & UEFA have to scrutinise the deals and ratify them as normal. It also highlights how inept of an association they are. I wonder if the PL would have tabled this proposal if the Qatari deal for Utd had gone through?
Any defeat for the League is good news. They as puppets of the red mafia cannot do whatever they want.
Let's not get too excited, yet, it might be a partial win. The assumption is that the PL withdrawing on a vote on adjustment of APT rules indicates a win for City (of some sort).
It will not be clear what the outcome is until the club or Pl or tribunal issue the findings.
Other clubs now looking over their shoulders
https://x.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/1843279615198212140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1843279615198212140%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url= (https://x.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/1843279615198212140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1843279615198212140%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=)
Was just about to post the same. Got a One Football link below for those who don't want to give the Daily Mail traffic.
Manchester City win APT legal case against Premier League via @Onefootball. Read it here:
https://onefootball.com/editorial/40139552?language=en
https://www.mancity.com/news/club/club-statement-rule-x-arbitral-tribunal-award-63863904?utm_source=x&utm_medium=organic_social (https://www.mancity.com/news/club/club-statement-rule-x-arbitral-tribunal-award-63863904?utm_source=x&utm_medium=organic_social)
"The Tribunal also ruled that there was an unreasonable delay in the Premier League's fair market value assessment of two of the Club's sponsorship transactions, and so the Premier League breached its own rules."
Says it all really. How much did the PL waste on legal fees while drafting the new rules? Hope they kept the receipt :D
I'd say that will have a big impact on the credibility of the PL. The obvious questions arising from this what were they trying to achieve and was there any undue pressure from outside sources? I think we all know the answer to that.
As previously mentioned, this could well have a major impact on the 115 charges. One of the big points made was that the rules were discriminatory against City as they deliberately excluded other clubs who benefited from interest free shareholder loans. The ruling has seemingly sided with City and their view that these interest free owner loans are no different than the APT sponsorship! I have been saying this ever since the original charges were issued by UEFA. Why would City need to break rules to inject money into the club when there were perfectly legal ways to achieve the same thing?
Martin Samuel article - Highlights the fact that PSR rules are now likely to have to take into consideration share holder loans. It could get more interesting...
https://archive.ph/7O0Dg (https://archive.ph/7O0Dg)
Full announcement here. Go straight to page 164. If you want to read the rest please do and let me know all about it :)
https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2024/10/07/898efab9-9f51-449b-a393-1a0c05b48824/Manchester-City-and-Premier-League-Partial-Final-Award-071024.pdf (https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2024/10/07/898efab9-9f51-449b-a393-1a0c05b48824/Manchester-City-and-Premier-League-Partial-Final-Award-071024.pdf)
Posted the wrong link earlier. Here's Martin!
https://archive.ph/NndOh (https://archive.ph/NndOh)
What a fantastic article by Martin Samuels! It's astonishing that the PL is claiming a victory in all of this
There are a lot of highly paid jobs at stake so of course they will claim sort sort of victory. We will see when the new rules are agreed if they can cling to that claim at all. The red mafia agreed that the interest free loans from shareholders would not be included for strong reasons. It could be that enough clubs would rather abandon large parts of the rules than allow those to be included.
Great news
The Red media in meltdown
I'm shocked at the largely timid response from the media. It seems that bar Martin Samuel, I haven't seen any in depth analysis about the rulings. No discussions in relation to possible outcomes to the zero or interest free owner loans. Compare that to the media rhetoric against City and the journalistic hyperbole based on speculation not fact.
I'm loving City's really aggressive stance at calling out the Premier League as liars. City aggro, City aggro.
The media keeping a low profile on this now City have the upper hand
Bitter jealous wankers the lot of them
The PL statement is interesting reading! I'm not surprised at City's reaction to it.The statement seems to be nothing more than a PR exercise and some of the contradictions are mind boggling!
The concept of APT is fine, but what the PL have failed to address is the actual implementation and their
'The decision represents an important and detailed assessment of the APT Rules, which ensure clubs are not able to benefit from commercial deals or reductions in costs that are not at Fair Market Value (FMV) by virtue of relationships with Associated Parties. These Rules were introduced to provide a robust mechanism to safeguard the financial stability, integrity and competitive balance of the League. '
'As the Tribunal has concluded, the APT Rules must now integrate the assessment of Shareholder loans and remove some of the amendments made to APT Rules earlier this year. Otherwise, the Premier League rulebook has been found to comply with competition and public law standards and is an effective and necessary system for assessing the FMV of APTs to ensure the integrity of the League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules. We are conducting a process that can allow the League and clubs to enact those specific changes quickly and effectively.'
'from a procedural perspective, it identified certain information that should have been provided to Manchester City at an earlier stage of the assessment process. Manchester City has already been provided with this information in respect of these transactions and has been invited to make further submissions in relation to it. Although the Tribunal noted that these FMV Assessments should have been conducted more speedily, it recognised that the delays had been due to a number of constraints which the League's Regulatory team and the independent FMV assessor were working under and have been resolved'
'As the Tribunal has concluded, the APT Rules must now integrate the assessment of Shareholder loans and remove some of the amendments made to APT Rules earlier this year. Otherwise, the Premier League rulebook has been found to comply with competition and public law standards and is an effective and necessary system for assessing the FMV of APTs to ensure the integrity of the League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules. We are conducting a process that can allow the League and clubs to enact those specific changes quickly and effectively.'
So the Premier League now say that there is no quick fix to an issue that they said that they could fix quickly just a few days ago. Of course, this comes after City had to point this out to them. At least we get to laugh at the Premier League cretins in the international break.
Quote from: gavin on October 12, 2024, 06:51:48So the Premier League now say that there is no quick fix to an issue that they said that they could fix quickly just a few days ago. Of course, this comes after City had to point this out to them. At least we get to laugh at the Premier League cretins in the international break.
Yup! The same 'issue' that City said was unlawful from the very start!
Rumours are around that there is a second part of the panel's judgement to be published that do not look good for the PL.
Quote from: reddishblue on October 13, 2024, 18:01:37Rumours are around that there is a second part of the panel's judgement to be published that do not look good for the PL.
Well their statement was a pack of lies. At the very least, Master should step down as he's clearly not fit for the role. Clearly a puppet for the red cartel.
The red cartel are falling apart
The OSC boiling some piss.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13988385/Man-Citys-legal-war-Premier-League-sponsorship-rules-rumbles-club-officials-clash-feisty-emergency-meeting-fears-growing-resolution-not-reached-year.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-facebook-sport&fbclid=IwY2xjawGEx4BleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXj1ALLz-PHCyfZiCczSHT6dU9hCPE3-FQnYLtmLQ6unFOvqLDM86RGLGA_aem_pYs2xLgvxPb0Go1HJZWuZw (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13988385/Man-Citys-legal-war-Premier-League-sponsorship-rules-rumbles-club-officials-clash-feisty-emergency-meeting-fears-growing-resolution-not-reached-year.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-facebook-sport&fbclid=IwY2xjawGEx4BleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXj1ALLz-PHCyfZiCczSHT6dU9hCPE3-FQnYLtmLQ6unFOvqLDM86RGLGA_aem_pYs2xLgvxPb0Go1HJZWuZw)
https://x.com/TheOSC8/status/1848757781492371874 (https://x.com/TheOSC8/status/1848757781492371874)
Classic. Well done OSC.