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Title: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Hesperus on March 13, 2020, 12:32:14
As it says!
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Hesperus on March 13, 2020, 12:36:42
Wonder how this is going to play out? Lots of questions as now they have suspended all games. They will not restart until it’s all out of the way and that could be 10-12 weeks apparently!  :o
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: gavin on March 13, 2020, 12:53:14
Sensible thing would be to move the Euros back a year if they insist of finishing the leagues. Infection rate has apparently dropped considerably in China now.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: KunDB on March 13, 2020, 14:23:27
I wouldn’t like to be a bindipper fan. Don’t panic, don’t panic, STAY CALM. 
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: lee on March 13, 2020, 15:40:55
Quote from: gavin on March 13, 2020, 12:53:14
Sensible thing would be to move the Euros back a year if they insist of finishing the leagues. Infection rate has apparently dropped considerably in China now.

I dont believe anything they say mate
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: KunDB on March 13, 2020, 16:03:01
We could extend the season to get PL games played.

However, given Klopp and Liverpool’s concern over players health and safety (played junior team in FA Cup while players and managers holidayed in Dubai, or somewhere similar) I’ve no doubt that would be totally unacceptable to them on health and safety grounds.

Unless City and other teams were happy to field junior teams to complete PL games.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Neil Mcnab on March 13, 2020, 16:09:01
Quote from: lee on March 13, 2020, 15:40:55
I dont believe anything they say mate
Totally agree, who knows what happens in China, it certainly isnt what they say it is.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Neil Mcnab on March 13, 2020, 16:10:13
Quote from: Hesperus on March 13, 2020, 12:36:42
Wonder how this is going to play out? Lots of questions as now they have suspended all games. They will not restart until it’s all out of the way and that could be 10-12 weeks apparently!  :o
Thats the peak isnt it?
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Neil Mcnab on March 13, 2020, 16:14:31
Autumn till anywhere near back to normal. Schools closed for 3 months blah blah. Call the league as it is now. I like football, but think a lot more of family and friends. Whatever it takes.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: KunDB on March 13, 2020, 20:56:37
Quote from: Neil Mcnab on March 13, 2020, 16:14:31
Autumn till anywhere near back to normal. Schools closed for 3 months blah blah. Call the league as it is now. I like football, but think a lot more of family and friends. Whatever it takes.

Totally agree with family over footie, but its not as simple as call PL as it is.

What about relegated teams, teams narrowly missing out on Europe. Big financial consequences and some clubs may go bust. Doing that sure to ignite lengthy legal battles and understandably so.

Yes, jesting aside we could all agree Liverpool are just and fair winners of the Premier League, they deserve the trophy.

But would Utd be happy (5th) maybe missing out on CL next season when they are on a winning run and could very likely have grabbed a top four finish?

Would Sheffield Utd be happy finishing 7th (with a game in hand) when they could win their game in hand and be 5th; and maybe that would be enough to get them in to the CL next season. If they played the remainder of their games they might even finish top four.

Would Wovles be happy being so close (6th) but not getting into CL through being denied a sporting chance to do so by playing out the remainder of the season.

As for relegation. Would Norwich, Aston Villa and Bournemouth think it fair to relegate them without even a chance to play out their remaining fixtures to allow them to save themselves. Aston Villa also have a game in hand which if played and won could relegate Watford instead of them? Could that game be played, would it legally have to be played, or would all game week 29 results have to be cancelled to make it fair (what a nightmare).

Also, what about the three Championship teams that are in prime position to be promoted to the PL next season. If they are not promoted would that be fair.

Then there is Championship relegation and so on and so on.

I just do not think calling the PL all over now would be fair. All in all it is a nightmare and the PL know that and Im guessing there are no provisions in the rules for such an event (cutting the PL short).

Even awarding Liverpool the title and freezing everything else has big barriers to be overcome, there is no simple and maybe even fair option.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Neil Mcnab on March 14, 2020, 11:53:21
KunDB. Yes Liverpool have won the league, I dont think it would be fair any other way. If the situation gets a bit better, I feel sure they will come up with something for top four, promotion and relegation. Play offs, bigger leagues for a year and the like. They will have to, otherwise will be in court for years.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Stephen Paul on March 15, 2020, 03:10:31
I honestly dont think the league will finish as this virus could take 8 weeks to clear

Its what the PL decide to do to keep everyone happy is the question 
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Paddy on March 15, 2020, 03:49:22
Just void this season
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Stephen Paul on March 15, 2020, 04:41:56
Quote from: Paddy on March 15, 2020, 03:49:22
Just void this season

Who qualifies for next years CL ?
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: gavin on March 15, 2020, 20:16:15
The Champions League probably won't finish either so it should be those who finished in the top four 2018/19.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Stephen Paul on March 16, 2020, 06:52:05
Its looking like the PL will not finish as schools etc are set to close for 6 weeks 
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Stephen Paul on March 16, 2020, 06:58:03
possibly play the games out behind closed doors

At least it will be back on the telly
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: KunDB on March 16, 2020, 07:40:08
Playing games behind closed doors leaves players officials and other staff at risk.

Plus UEFA want to coordinate the response if leagues across Europe so PL clubs may not have the deciding choice. 

Envisaged that this virus could last to Spring 2021.

Voiding league may be only option
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Gareth on March 16, 2020, 08:03:35
A couple more things that might be problems.
You might say, it’ll all be ok; but I bet there’s agents and lawyers out there who see a business opportunity.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Neil Mcnab on March 16, 2020, 19:23:14
Good news, bad news, any news, always business opportunities.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: KunDB on March 16, 2020, 23:59:58
Bo Jo has indirectly and indecisively banned events requiring Emergency Workers cover. He stated we are b moving away from them, better if he just made a decision rather than dither and dather as he always does and just ban events.

So that’s football behind closed doors out now.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: Neil Mcnab on March 17, 2020, 19:16:26
It makes sense to cancel any event having any type of medical staff in attendance. I guess even St Johns ambulance and the like will be required to help with coronavirus patients.
Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: KunDB on March 20, 2020, 13:06:18
 Premier League Behind Closed Doors as Early as May?  (https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/coronavirus-premier-league-season-update-latest-behind-closed-doors-a9413786.html)

Well I hate to pour cold water on the hope of others but I seriously doubt this will happen. It is a case of burying your head in sand to hide from reality, so not to take a financial hit. There simply is no getting away from it all clubs will take a financial hit. Open or closed stadium the risks and issues are the same. Do players, officials and staff want to isolate themselves from their families? Because that would be needed to ensure they don’t bring this crippling and often deadly virus 🦠 home to more vulnerable relatives and others.

City being debt free are best placed to face this financial crisis, so let us all brace for the condemnation of our club for being debt free and better situated to ride out the storm.

Title: Re: All PL and FA cup games suspended until 4th April
Post by: gavin on March 22, 2020, 21:12:32
I'd settle now for the season starting as normal in August. Even that seems a tad optimistic. Footballers have to get within two metres of each other so playing behind closed doors is impossible for the forseeable.