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citymancs => off topic => Topic started by: stephenmcfc on January 25, 2021, 11:30:16

Title: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: stephenmcfc on January 25, 2021, 11:30:16
Scotland pushing on a referendum
Polls showing 51 % of Northern Ireland citizens want a united Ireland

More and more unrest at Downing Street
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: goat on January 25, 2021, 12:49:45
wales mumbling a bit louder about it too
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: stephenmcfc on January 25, 2021, 13:10:43
Bit of a fuck up for Boris
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: gavin on January 25, 2021, 21:28:32
It is not a surprise to me that support for a United Ireland would be increasing. But I don't think figure I've seen this 51% want a United Ireland figure. Got a link?
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: stephenmcfc on January 26, 2021, 19:58:04
BBC news Gavin

The young N Irish generation want to stay in the EU
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: gavin on January 26, 2021, 21:07:47
Can't say I blame them.
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: Swiss on January 30, 2021, 11:23:22
Polls are only a snap shot. 51% of 10% isn't 51% of 100%
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: Swiss on January 30, 2021, 11:28:15
Whilst I think it would be a shame to break up the union, any vote on referendums of scottish independence should include Scots who don't li e in Scotland, but reside in the UK.

I am of Scots, Irish and English decent, but I won't be afforded a vote.
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: Swiss on January 30, 2021, 12:15:01
I'm just having a look at the stats...

From the Scot.gov website:

In 17/18

Scotland's revenue was £60bn

Scotland expenditure was £73bn

A cool 13bn hole each year. I wonder who helps to plug that
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: stephenmcfc on February 02, 2021, 21:19:49
Times are changing
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: Swiss on February 04, 2021, 08:38:44
Trouble is, the Scots don't like Sturgeon.

This is based on my Scottish family
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: goat on February 04, 2021, 10:49:37
lot of them voted for her tone
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: stephenmcfc on February 04, 2021, 19:52:48
Things are starting to get a bit unsettled here in Belfast
No fucking suprise there
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: goat on February 05, 2021, 13:15:00
what did you do this time stevie
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: stephenmcfc on February 05, 2021, 15:04:12
what did you do this time stevie

Irish Sea border checks on food . The Indians are not happy
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: Swiss on February 06, 2021, 17:02:45
lot of them voted for her tone

Sorry, meant they've grown tired of her, not a dislike in the beginning
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: goat on February 07, 2021, 13:48:37
same with drakeford here, he is a shitload better than letting johnson fuck us up but some of his decisions are a bit weird
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: Neil Mcnab on February 09, 2021, 22:12:49
Its for Scotland and NI to decide what they want to do. I am a unionist, so hope it all stays together, we will all be poorer if it breaks apart. The only winners will be politicians, civil servants and lawyers. All of them leech money. If the EU starts to fall apart, will it be worth it.
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: lee on February 10, 2021, 12:09:03
That is the question Neil.Will the EU fall apart?
They way they threw Ireland under a bus last week and their treatment of Greece and Italy is nothing short of disgraceful.
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: reddishblue on February 14, 2021, 22:55:48
Apparently some knob from Wales thinks there's a chance of independence as Scotland nearly did it. I know it's true as I saw it live on the Andy Marr show this morning. From my understanding North Welsh and South Welsh can't stand each other, could be interesting to see how this works out.

Not mentioning Cardiff or Swansea obviously.
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: Swiss on February 18, 2021, 14:43:05
Problem is, all the money is in Swansea and Cardiff.

Interestingly, Wales' net deficit is also ~13bn a year (2019)

Tax revenue is 27bn

Spending is 40bn.

So England is proping up both countries by 13bn each...
Title: Re: United Kingdom on the verge of breaking up
Post by: gavin on February 18, 2021, 21:29:47
I wouldn't rely on stats like that. The focus of the UK has been on the South for so long that it has entrenched such inequalities. This is precisely why regions could be better off on their own.

The South of England has bled the regions dry and then produces stats like that to show us why we should be grateful!

They can keep their shitty rugby team too.