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citymancs => citymancs => Topic started by: goat on March 21, 2015, 22:08:46

Title: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 21, 2015, 22:08:46
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serie a might be 5 clubs in a few years at this rate.... thats the stand normally full of flags and fires if you dont know
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: bluebrendan on March 22, 2015, 17:58:05
Has Berlusconi pulled the plug? I know his family were rumoured to want to cut down their shareholding at the start of the season
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 22, 2015, 22:11:16
dont think so yet but its about on the pitch as well, 4 wins in 2015
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: gavin on March 22, 2015, 22:26:19
36000 average but less than Leeds last couple of weeks. I'm rarely tempted to watch Italian football.

http://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/ita-serie-a-2014-2015/1/
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: bry the guy on March 22, 2015, 22:46:19
I didnt realise how poor italian football was supported must be the shit style they play.only 7 teams get over 300000
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Stephen Paul on March 23, 2015, 02:53:25
Being one of the most corrupt leagues in Europe doesn't help
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 04:43:42
bollocks, its got nothing on nigeria with their 64-0 games

the money just fell out the league and fucked a load up , could happen here and spain soon
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 07:20:59
I doubt it would happen here, the premier league's to popular worldwide, the same with Spain.

Betting scandals stretching back to the 70's and 80's, drugs, ultras,match fixing and organised crime involvement have left Serie A lagging well behind England, Spain Germany and even France as a broadcasting spectacle
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on March 23, 2015, 09:46:56
Quote from: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 07:20:59
I doubt it would happen here, the premier league's to popular worldwide, the same with Spain.


The Italian league was once popular worldwide...
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 12:11:09
Quote from: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 07:20:59
I doubt it would happen here, the premier league's to popular worldwide, the same with Spain.

Betting scandals stretching back to the 70's and 80's, drugs, ultras,match fixing and organised crime involvement have left Serie A lagging well behind England, Spain Germany and even France as a broadcasting spectacle

city and liverpool came pretty close to going bust not too long ago
oh and everything bar ultras has happened over here
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 12:16:31
Quote from: Rowley Birkin QC on March 23, 2015, 09:46:56
Quote from: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 07:20:59
I doubt it would happen here, the premier league's to popular worldwide, the same with Spain.


The Italian league was once popular worldwide...

i remember the only place you could watch spanish football over here was s4c
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 12:25:15
Quote from: Rowley Birkin QC on March 23, 2015, 09:46:56
Quote from: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 07:20:59
I doubt it would happen here, the premier league's to popular worldwide, the same with Spain.


The Italian league was once popular worldwide...

Not in the same way as the premier league is now. When Serie first appeared regularly over here the teams played decent football with teams full of international stars like Gullit and van Basten but it started to take it for granted. More money made for more corruption ( which is I'm sad to say prevelant in italian society) that led to more scandal and less appeal.

I can't remember in the last 30-40 years any major corruption or match fixing scandals in English football.
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 13:19:41
segars, fashanu and  grobbelaar
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Lekos on March 23, 2015, 14:28:15
Come on mate, that's tenuous even for you!  Can hardly compare those three to the Serie A scandals.
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 14:37:05
was big at the time and match fixing is match fixing
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 15:10:07
Not quite Totonero or Calciopopli though.
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Lekos on March 23, 2015, 15:20:52
I'm sure Steve will think it is.  His blinkers are made using genuine Italian leather.
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 15:23:32
nah he wouldnt


true, but its still another of your little list of things that you doubt would happen here that happened here

Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 20:31:40
yeah, whatever.
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 20:34:15
kinnell, both of you having a sulk, whats next, you doubting diving will come to england?
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 20:41:08
If you`re seriously going to compare Hans Segers or Bruce Grobbelaar to the scandals in italian football then there's no point even trying to hold a sensible discussion.
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 20:42:59
the point was you doubting match fixing would happen in england, i pointed out that it can and has, was no mention of the size of the scandal. if you are going to act a massive cnut when you are wrong... well theres no point in you
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 20:50:20
But weren't all of those you mentioned found not guilty?
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 20:52:24
of the fixing but not the betting
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 20:53:11
so no match fixing then?
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 20:58:34
no there has and as youve probably heard often its lucky size doesnt matter

Unusual betting patterns were reported for a match between Accrington Stanley and Bury on the final day of the 2007â€"08 season. A Football Association investigation resulted in five players, four of whom played for Accrington Stanley and the other for Bury, being charged with betting on a Bury win. Jay Harris was banned from playing for a year, David Mannix for ten months, Robert Williams and Peter Cavanagh for eight months, and Andrew Mangan for five months. Each player was also fined between £2,000â€"5,000.

few others too but billy meredith offering a bloke a tenner would really be taking the piss

some colombian bloke at oldham was up to no good as well
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 21:04:28
Then perhaps tifosi in Milan are more moral than those in Accrington.
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 23, 2015, 21:06:23
the brigate rossonere are lovely lads

fair play to them for going through with it
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 21:10:50
In fairness the Accrington fans have been boycotting football a lot longer
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: bluebrendan on March 24, 2015, 23:17:40
Quote from: Ludo on March 23, 2015, 12:25:15

I can't remember in the last 30-40 years any major corruption or match fixing scandals in English football.

They just haven't come out yet.
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: lee on March 25, 2015, 22:18:09
i hate both milan clubs

forza torino :)
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 25, 2015, 23:46:32
isnt your mrs family all juve?
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: lee on March 27, 2015, 19:27:17
yeh steve..
makes it more interesting come derby day

actually i really like napoli because of maradona and more recently hamsik,cavani and levazzi (when them 2 played for them)
Title: Re: christ, how the mighty have fallen
Post by: goat on March 27, 2015, 19:35:55
were a good team that napoli even if it was just diego and his mates