You decide what City looks like next season!!
Sell:
GK: Cabellero (£1m)
LB: Clichy (£7m)
CB: Boyata (£500K)
RB: Sagna (£1m)
LM: Nasri (£15m)
CM: Toure, Fernando (£6m + loan is prob what we can get...)
RM: N/a
ST: Dzeko, Jovetic (£20m, £15m)
Out on loan
Scott Sinclair =£3m
Negredo = £25m
Guidetti = £3m
Lampard = £0
Free: Milner likely to leave: Micah Richards
Total return = £96.5m
Add to rumoured "warchest": £150m + 96.5m = £246.5m
Keep:
GK: Hart & Wright (2 x HG)
LB: Kolarov
CM: Kompany, Demichelis, Mangala
RB: Zabaleta
LM: N/A
CM: Silva, Fernandino
RM: Navas
ST: Aguero, Bony
First team squad size = 12, max = 25 (unlimited U21's) need 6 x HG (quota is 8).
Diference = 13 players...
GK: Promote Angus Gunn Free (1xHG)
LB: Promote Angelino: at 18 he should be pushing for the first team and we hear good things about him... Free (1 x HG)
CB: Keep Rekik or Denayer this year as 4th choice: Free (1 x HG)
RB: John stones at Everton: £8mil (1 x HG)
LM: Bale: £80m (1 x HG): Promote Brandon Barker Free (1 x HG)
AM/WG: De Brunye: £35m
CM: Schniederlin (£15m) & Pogba (£50m)
ST: Promote Iheanacho Free (1 x HG)
Leaves Approx £58m & 2 places to fill. HG quota filled.
Simple right!?
----------------Aguero---------------------
Bale----------------------------De Brunye
---------------Silva---------------------------
-------Pogba----------Scniederlin---------
Kolarov------------------------------Zabaleta
------------Demi---------Kompany-----------
------------------Hart--------------------------
Who would you buy and how would you set up?
I agree with most. As others have said, Kolarov is playing well, but angling for a move. I cant see him staying if his mates go. Rumours of Cresswell coming in, but would like to see Angelino get his chance.
I cannot see us getting Pogba, so Axel Witsel maybe. Schneiderlin as well.
I can see Real Madrid coming for Aguero. If he wants to go, we should respect his wishes.(He is the best player in our league, great attitude/will to win and work rate - gutted to see him go). Bale and Benzema from them should be part of the package.
Lavezzi is not playing at PSG, I think he has a year on his contract left, decent back up.
Navas is not good enough. Sterling is itching for a move, just concerned by his attitude/antics.
De Bruyne, Reus would be better.
Kolarov only wanted a move because Clichy kept getting in ahead of him, but now he's proving his worth.
I don't see why we won't be competing for Pogba? TBH I don't know that much about him other than what I've read which tends to be "Great energy, good on the ball, box to box...". I know even less about Witsel.
Pellers has issued a "hands off" warning for Aguero. I can't see us selling our greatest striker ever (in my memory)!
I did think about Benzema but... if we're playing 1 up top, do we need 4 strikers?
We've been linked with Levazzi since the Tevez departure... Not sure he's as good as Tevez and I'd rather just give our youth Strikers a bish bash bosh!
You're right, Navas has been poor... But he's still got the most assists in the league for City this year with 8. If he can add goals to his game then he could come good...
If we're buying Reus, might as well Gotze as well!
Gotze - who ate all the Bratwurst?
Over my head!
Pogba, Sterling and Bale in. Re-sign Richards. Cliches, Dzeko, Jovetic, Miller, Ya Ya out.
Cloud cuckoo land! (//)
Gotze - who ate all the pies then.
I believe Yaya, Jovetic and Dzeko will definitely go. Milner and Richards wont be employed by us shortly as their contracts end. Fernando is slow and cant pass forward. Valencia have committed to sign the beast. Nasri tried really hard for his first game, after that? Sinclair/Boyata have a year on their contracts, whats the point.
Navas is a trier, but disappointed in his assists and goal contribution.
We are in a race with PSG to see who can win the Chumps league first, bragging rights in the middle east.
We can't count any money for Negredo,wasn't that taken into account last season?
they haven't paid up yet!
Top thread this! Well done Swiss - and who have contributed so far.
Quote from: Swiss on May 16, 2015, 00:03:08
they haven't paid up yet!
No, but it's already been accounted for in FFP.
There were rumours that they weren't going to... Not sure how water tight the contract to buy him is. Said to be for E27m: Let's hope we agreed it in sterling!
Quote from: Neil Mcnab on May 15, 2015, 21:29:32
Gotze - who ate all the pies then.
I believe Yaya, Jovetic and Dzeko will definitely go. Milner and Richards wont be employed by us shortly as their contracts end. Fernando is slow and cant pass forward. Valencia have committed to sign the beast. Nasri tried really hard for his first game, after that? Sinclair/Boyata have a year on their contracts, whats the point.
Navas is a trier, but disappointed in his assists and goal contribution.
We are in a race with PSG to see who can win the Chumps league first, bragging rights in the middle east.
:D I thought there was some sort of sausage incident akin to the:
Bit of a rude song, don't play if your gran is near!
I fully expect Lots of people to be in for the 3 top targets there: Bale, Pogba & De Bruyne... But we can compete!
Things move on - mobile phones, used to gerbils didnt it.
De Bruyne has showed well in the Bundesliga. So did Kagawa. Its big money, no player is certain to be successful, but its more of a gamble with De Bruyne.
Bale would be as near as certain success, but the only reason we might get him is if he agreed to be part of a deal taking Kun to Madrid.
Pogba - league champion - champions league finalist. Stepping down to come to us? I see PSG in his homeland more likely.
That was Richard Gere (allegedly)! ;D
I agree, De Bruyne is a gamble... but covers both wings and through the centre. He's young and could be with the team for many years.
As see Bale as maybe wanting to go to utd (boo). Giggs is his hero afterall! But I would expect us to go for him.
Bales stock has publicly gone down this year, a big enough bid without Kun could be enough for them to cut their losses.
Not really a step down if we're both in the Champs league, OK they're finalists but they wont be there every season and there's more money in the prem... . Has said (again allegedly) that he'd come back to the Prem.
Id like to just get Bale, Pogba & a top class CB
team doesnt need much, but mgr isnt top class defensively (obviously)
Nasri - Yaya - Dzeko out
We're going to need a pair of CM's with Toure and Lampard going. Possibly Milner add another cm/ winger.
Add another winger anyway
Looks like Robbens being linked; I like him, but at 31 and made of glass, I can't help but feel we should be looking elsewhere
We're being linked to this 20-year old left back. Bit of a kick in the teeth to Angelino... but he looks ok in this vid, even if the standard of footy looks awful in places... Plays for Ausberg. Cameo for De Brunye too
De Brunye scored a 20 yarder in the German cup final as wolf's burg won 3-1 against Dortmund
dont get excited, the dortmund keeper made hart look like buffon
I don't think there's any truely world class keepers at the moment
neuer
I don't rate him that highly
the world champions do tho
Just because they're world champions doesn't mean they're all world class
cant think of many world cup winners that have been a bit shit
Quote from: goat on May 31, 2015, 23:37:58
cant think of many world cup winners that have been a bit shit
Boateng.
world cup, few bundy leagues and champs league... you would think he would have been found out by now eh
or are you old and confused and thinking of kevin?
Quote from: goat on June 01, 2015, 00:04:14
world cup, few bundy leagues and champs league... you would think he would have been found out by now eh
or are you old and confused and thinking of kevin?
Nope, I'm not old and confused, Jerome is not a top class defender IMO, he always seems to have a costly error in him. A fully fit Aguero would have shown him up in the World Cup final just as he did in the CL game in the season just gone.
being shown up by one of the best in the world isnt really a disaster
would love to know what really happened with him fucking off so quick
To be fair, what we saw of him was a performance of Bambi on ice!
Worst world cup winners
Roque Junior
Steph Guivarch
Branco
BErnie Diomede
Kleberson
Alain Boghossian
Cristian Zaccardo ;D
Luizao (not THE Luizao, another)
Jerome Boateng!
(Stole the list from off the net)
branco? what the fuck tone, you might lose your stat hat
He won the 94 world cup someone said he was shit. I can't remember the fella myself, as said above, I stole the list above.
shit list, steal better lists
better lists of worst players?
probably
How about wurst lists?
cant be doing with german sausages
Could be wurst... conch it a wurst!
Its been rumoured before but wouldnt mind this guy
https://twitter.com/City_Watch/status/606612259180322817/photo/1
Can't see Twatter at work, who's in it?
Isco?
Looks like they're tring to replicate the Xavi/Inesta partnership of barce
Would be nice to get Scniederlin behind them and two proper wing forwards.
I wouldn't mind Lacazette... but I've only seen a few vids of him.
Aguero, Bony, Ian Nacho and Lacazette... as a strike force!
i might have mentioned him being alright before
Lacazette?
someone did before.
I wish we'd get on with signing some players
no, hamsik
Bale says he's happy and wants to stay at Real (...although of course he might not have any say in the matter)
Sterling rumours won't go away...
(Just say'in ;) )
We never buy who I want any way, so pay no attention to my top picks :D
Reports coming in that Kolarov in talks with Inter >:( Would rather Clichy be sold... least we get in a top notch LB...
Kolorov looked good at the end of the season. Clichy seems to be the worst of the two. Neither has looked great defensively. However they both have a decent collection of medals to be fair.
Probably only keeping Gael cos he's homegrown
Both valid points, I still reckon Kolarov has more to offer all round.
Clichy has hit or miss all season , time to move on
De Brunye links seem to be escalating with himself admiting that City have been in contact with his agent. reports guessing at £30m
didnt he say yesterday hes staying in germany?
Since then he's said City have made informal contact with his agent. He hasn't said anything about wanting a move
So Vital Football (http://www.manchestercity.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=554191#ixzz3cgriQ1KW) hav published the below artical: Notice anything by Fernando's name... (Key at bottom)
Manchester City have submitted their paperwork on the retained and released list going into the 2015-16 campaign.
First team through scholars through those gaining their first professional deals in the game.
Contract Players:
Adarabioyo Tosin
Adjei-Boateng Bismark
Aguero Del Castillo Sergio
Ambrose Thierry
Barbosa Intima Jorge Fernando (Offer)
Barker Brandon Lee
Bony Wilfried Guemiand
Bossaerts Mathias
Boyata Dedryck Anga
Bryan Kean Shay
Byrne Jack
Bytyqi Sinan
Caballero Lazcano Wilfredo Daniel
Celina Bersant
Clichy Gael
Cole Devante (Offer)
Demichelis Martin Gaston
Denayer Jason
Dzeko Edin
Esmoris Tasende Jose Angel
Evans George
Facey Shay
Fofana Seko Mohamed
Glendon George
Godsway Donyoh
Gunn Angus Fraser James
Hart Charles Joseph John
Hiwula Mayifulia Jordy
Horsfield James Extended
Iheanacho Kelechi
Jimenez Silva David Josue
Jovetic Stevan
Kolarov Aleksandar
Kompany Vincent
Lawlor Ian John
Luiz Roza Fernando
Maffeo Becerra Pablo
Mangala Eliaquim
Mesquita Lopes Marcos Paulo
Milner James Philip (Offer - agreed Liverpool deal)
Naah Divine Yelsarmba
Nasri Samir
Nastasic Matija
Navas Jesus
Negredo Sanchez Alvaro
Ntcham Jules Olivier
Nwakali Chidiebere Chikioke
O'Brien Billy Thomas
Plummer Ellis Kane
Pozo La Rosa Jose Angel
Reges Fernando Francisco
Rekik Kerim
Sagna Bacary
Sinclair Scott Andrew (loan turned permanent with Aston Villa)
Smith-Brown Ashley
Toure Gnegneri Yaya
Wright Richard Ian (Offer)
Zabaleta Girod Pablo Javier
Zuculini Bruno
Scholars:
Albinson Charlie (Offer Contract)
Boadu-Adjei Denzeil (Offer Contract)
Buckley-ricketts Isaac
Bullock Callum
Dilrosun Javairo Joreno Faustino
Faour Zackarias
Fernandes Cantin Paolo
Garcia Alonso Manuel
Grimshaw Daniel James
Haug Christian Kjetil
Humphreys-Grant Cameron
Kongolo Rodney
Murray Joshua
Nemane Aaron Evans
Oliver Charles William Corrigan
Oseni Nathaniel Adeyomi Andrew (Extended)
Tattum Sam (Offer Contract)
Vasi Emanuel
Wood Marcus James
Free transfers:
Drury Adam John
Guidetti John Alberto
Lampard Frank James
Leigh Greg
Oduro Dominic
Richards Micah
(offer) - on table not signed
(offer contract) on table not signed
(extended) deal signed
If your referring to the offer next to Fernando and you mean the shite defensive midfielder we have then its a different Fernando. Shite Fernando's full name is Fernando Francisco Reges so look under the R's ;)
Damn!
milan had offer of about 15 mill accepted for zlatan
jump all over that
Angelinos has been loaned to NYC FC
This means he wont be in our first team next season and we're left with
Clichy
Kolarov
And we're expecting one to go, meaning we'll still have to buy a new LB!
Feckin Fabian Delph now!
I'd rather spend the £40 mil on Sterling!
60 quid bid made for stephen hawkin
better at dribbling than navas
Fabian Delph?!
That's a bit 'left field'. What's he got to offer (aside from being British)?
Serious question - he's hardly registered on my radar all season.
plays in the middle for villa, trying to recreate the magic of barry or make another shit winger
Ah those were the days!
This is what he has to offer
He's an average midfielder.
Fabian Delph isnt even top 6 material, gash. Or a winner if we are unfortunate enough to sign him.
Schneiderlin is classed as home grown, about the same age and a better player. Yes hes more defensive, but different class to Delph.
Sterling - I already think £30 million is already well over priced for him. Pray the latest £40 million offer is the last.
If we are desperate to sign English/British players, Clyne and Stones. Walcott has a year on his contract. Or even better Aaron Ramsey, unlikely.
If we're signing Patrick roberts, better to gamble on him and splash our cash on Bale :D
I see Spuds have taken a punt on Trippier. Never seen as quite good enough for us though?
]http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33174318[url] (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33174318%5Burl)[/url]
Five year deal as well...
I didn't take much notice of him last season. He'll be in direct competition with kyle walker
lads mam raved about delph but shes a villa fan and went out with me for a few years so shes a fucking idiot
It's easy to lok good in that villa team....
only villa player i can think of is delph and thats only because of this thread
Benteke
Gabbi
N'zogbia
We've been linked to grealish, who was their best player last season from what I saw.
benteke was bollocks against wales
why the fuck would they be shopping at villa anyway, they only just stayed up
He was balls in the fa cup final too. Looked really disinterested.
Vlaar had a shit season n'all
N'zogbia is an awful footballer
I thought the Zog was pretty decent at Wigan, but since Kinnear called him Insomnia it's like he's been asleep!
8)
Alex Song anyone? Beng linked to him now. Would fulfil the HG quota.
Had a good first half of season with WHU but invisable the second.
Much like West Ham all over
So enes unal in as per the other thread.
And
Looks like Karim Rekik to Marseille! Shame I thought he had great potential.
Forgot that Barce had a transfer ban...
Quote from: Swiss on June 25, 2015, 21:13:47
So enes unal in as per the other thread.
And
Looks like Karim Rekik to Marseille! Shame I thought he had great potential.
It seems we are getting rid of youngsters to replace them with other kids....i hope we have a 25% sell on clause on these gifted players.
speaking of that... Kieran Trippier's arrival at spurs has netted us £1.24m! 8)
Randomly being linked with a new RB... Fabinho. Guess that's curtains for Sagna!
Reported bids going in for Hamsek (Goats lover) and Bellerabi (never heard of him).
Barce seem to be voicing quite loudly they've got Pogba... Anyone else think it's weird that they've got a transfer ban but are still allowed to conduct deals!?
Pogba to Barca for 2016-2017
http://www.marca.com/en/2015/07/01/en/football/barcelona/1435764459.html (http://www.marca.com/en/2015/07/01/en/football/barcelona/1435764459.html)
Stay at Juve until the ban is over.
They shouldnt even be allowed to talk to players or agent while they have a ban,they could put the price of players up if another club is interested.
I bet they had to pay a fee to get that deal.
Barca's presidential candidates playing election politics I think.
https://twitter.com/City_Watch/status/616265082264231936
I hope we complain, but at the same time if that's what the player wants then we should honour that... but still file a complaint :D
Hmmmn you could be right!
Manchester City are reportedly close to tying up a deal to sign Aston Villa's England international midfielder Fabian Delph
bloody hell, I hope not
here's a post from Bluesky on mancityblues
"Yesterday evening Bartomeu, the Barca president, said on his official Twitter feed that they've pulled out of the Pogba deal saying the coach decides which players he wants and he doesn't want Pogba. My own view is that Juve and Barca were just old mates conniving to try to push the price up from City. Tentatively I'd say it was back on."
On Delph, I'd be wary... but I'd give him a shot over Fernando after last season!
On Pogba: Pres elections... Maybe FIFA stepped in and told them they couldn't do any deals. May Juve told them to bugger off for the reasons of the Champs league... Maybe they just don't want to sell...
First signing complete, Enes Unal
http://www.turkish-football.com/bursaspor-wonder-kid-completes-2m-move-to-manchester-city/? (http://www.turkish-football.com/bursaspor-wonder-kid-completes-2m-move-to-manchester-city/?)
Sinclair has signed for Villa dont know how much for.
They taken Micah off us on a free as well! I still reckon we should get something for him considering he came through our youth...
Quote from: Swiss on July 06, 2015, 22:36:42
They taken Micah off us on a free as well! I still reckon we should get something for him considering he came through our youth...
Bosnan wasnt it?
we didnt offer him a contract, crazy shit, decent squad (English) player
Yer but if a player has been trained by your club, you're due compo by signing team if under 24 I believe...
Aye that's true, but Micah is 27 isn't it boyo.
Quote from: Swiss on July 06, 2015, 22:36:42
They taken Micah off us on a free as well! I still reckon we should get something for him considering he came through our youth...
but he is shit, villa taking him off wage bill is enough
im glad to see the back of richards..and his smile :)
Potentially could have been a great rb but I blame Pearce trying to turn him into a cb and then micah bulking up
richards always reminds me of a rugby league player
Quote from: Swiss on July 07, 2015, 18:52:02
Potentially could have been a great rb but I blame Pearce trying to turn him into a cb and then micah bulking up
he had no positional sense at fullback or in the middle, shit he should have learned as a kid
yer, he did use his pace and power to get him out of trouble.
I still blame Pearce though
the trouble his shitness got him in to start with
aye, blame pearce but we all know that toy thing was the real brains of the operation
His lucky horse ...
Worst thing was, pearce in charge if the U-21's!
i didnt mind that
Micah was very good in the first title win season, was keeping Zabba out of the team until he got one of his injuries.
I'd like to see some action in the transfer market now - only four weeks until the season kicks off.
Quote from: gavin on July 08, 2015, 21:29:48
I'd like to see some action in the transfer market now - only four weeks until the season kicks off.
Compared with 2 years ago (Negredo, Navas etc) when business was done with quiet efficiency, this has the makings of a shambles.......Pogba, too expensive, Sterling too expensive, De Bruyne?......Delph it is then
Berahino sounds like he's got some sense.......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3154081/Saido-Berahino-splits-Raheem-Sterling-s-controversial-agent-Aidy-Ward-West-Brom-star-becoms-disillusioned.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3154081/Saido-Berahino-splits-Raheem-Sterling-s-controversial-agent-Aidy-Ward-West-Brom-star-becoms-disillusioned.html)
We'll end up with Rodwell, garcia and a.n.other!
Quote from: Leewonpen on July 09, 2015, 11:18:15
Berahino sounds like he's got some sense.......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3154081/Saido-Berahino-splits-Raheem-Sterling-s-controversial-agent-Aidy-Ward-West-Brom-star-becoms-disillusioned.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3154081/Saido-Berahino-splits-Raheem-Sterling-s-controversial-agent-Aidy-Ward-West-Brom-star-becoms-disillusioned.html)
if this transfer ever goes through the papers will have nowt to write about
Who gives a fuck what the papers say?
If we buy him it's because the club wants to, regardless of the price. We'll have bought a young, exciting, potentially world class player.
But this is City, so we'll have the naysayers, the 'grass is always greener' people, the foreign is always best people and assorted 'I know better' people.
So with the pending transfer of sterling we now have:
Joe Hart
Richard Wright (Signed a new contract)
Geal Clichy
Raheem Sterling (Pending)
4 down, 4 to go
Quote from: Ludo on July 09, 2015, 23:13:50
Who gives a fuck what the papers say?
If we buy him it's because the club wants to, regardless of the price. We'll have bought a young, exciting, potentially world class player.
But this is City, so we'll have the naysayers, the 'grass is always greener' people, the foreign is always best people and assorted 'I know better' people.
take my posts with a pinch of salt :D
Quote from: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 23:20:18
So with the pending transfer of sterling we now have:
Joe Hart
Richard Wright (Signed a new contract)
Geal Clichy
Raheem Sterling (Pending)
4 down, 4 to go
Do we really need to buy another 4 'homegrown' players it's not compulsory.
you can reduce the squad of 25. So so far we can register 21 players.
U-21 players don't count towards the total (but sort of do if we're counting HG and we don't have a full squad). I prob haven't explained that well...
What I'm hoping we do, when we sell Dzeko and Jovetic, is use Ian Nacho... That's up to 5.
I forgot to add Denayer at CB, that's 6.
So in reality, we only need 2 more.
I'm still unsure if Pogba & De Bruyne count as HG...
Pogba signed for the rags on the 7th October 2009 (Aged 16) and left July 2012 ( aged 19)
To me that's less than 3 calendar years...
De Bruyne does not count towards HG. He joined chavski's at age 21
Surely the quota rules we can have a maximum of 17 'foreign' players the other eight places could be made up from homegrown and kids?
Yep, so a squad of 25.
If you don't have 8 hg, you reduce the amount of non-hg.
Haha, I like this one - from the TElegraph of all places!
Seven reasons Raheem Sterling is a better signing than Bastian Schweinsticker
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11736134/Seven-reasons-Raheem-Sterling-is-a-better-signing-than-Bastian-Schweinsteiger.html
I think they may be right
Quote from: Swiss on July 13, 2015, 13:24:50
Yep, so a squad of 25.
If you don't have 8 hg, you reduce the amount of non-hg.
Can't we just count some of the kids as the 8 homegrown or do they have to be a certain age?
Yes, but the whole point is that you can anyway as they're under 21.
Depends how greedy we are with player numbers
Squad as it stands
GK: Hart, Cabellero & Wright (2 x HG)
LB: Kolarov, Clichy (1 x HG)
CM: Kompany, Demichelis, Mangala, Denayer (1 x HG)
RB: Zabaleta, Sagna
LM: N/a
CM: Silva, Fernandino, Yaya, Fernando, Nasri
RM: Navas, Sterling (Subject to medical) (1 x HG)
ST: Aguero, Bony, Dzeko, Jovetic
squad size 22 (Max 25 of over 21's, squad includes 2 x under 21's)
HG = 5 (Minimum 8 or squad restrictions)
Non-HG = 17 (Maximum)
Current Status: Good to Go for the new season in terms of squad Non-HG/HG rule.
If we sign Pogba and De Bruyne, I don't beleive either will be HG meaning we'll have to lose 2 x Non-HG.
Dzeko and Jovetic look to be on their way out so there's room for the other two, but looks light in the striking department (leaving 2).
Also heavy on the CM department with 6 (5 + Pogba).
If we're playing 451 next season this will mean 3 berths for CM and 1 for striker, which to me, confirms that we're playing this formation given squad players at our disposal.
We can boost one of the strikers with Ian Nacho or one of the other teenagers we've just signed up front (The Turkish and French lads): Or two of them...
Can't do much worse than Dzeko or Jevetic last year!
Reports we're lining up James McCarthy or Ross Barkely from Everton... Must be a replacement for Fernando who had a miserable season... Would Add 1 to our HG quota, but would they add anything to our squad?
The HG or British rule is crap.The main reason the EPL is so popular is because it attracts the best players in the world and forcing clubs to have HG players is just weakening the EPL,fuck the England team.
Quote from: bry the guy on July 14, 2015, 14:04:34
The HG or British rule is crap.The main reason the EPL is so popular is because it attracts the best players in the world and forcing clubs to have HG players is just weakening the EPL,fuck the England team.
Very true
also :
" the whole “City ruin English players†cliche is groundless guff.
In fact, English players have picked up a grand total of 24 medals in the last five years â€" more than at any other English club.
Of course, there have been let-downs, and everyone throws up the names of Scott Sinclair, Jack Rodwell and Adam Johnson â€" but they also ignore the success stories of Joe Hart, James Milner, Gareth Barry Micah Richards and Joleon Lescott."
Quote from: bry the guy on July 14, 2015, 14:04:34
The HG or British rule is crap.The main reason the EPL is so popular is because it attracts the best players in the world and forcing clubs to have HG players is just weakening the EPL,fuck the England team.
It's not something I mind actually, with 17 non-HG allowed in your team, still allows us to get the best foreign talent and ensures our youth team actually means something. 5 years time I reckon we'll be churning out quite a lot of decent talent.
remember HG doesn't have to be English.
But your meant to have 5 british players and that number will be 8 in 3 years time or did i nightmare that?
5 homegrown bry, dont have to be british
cheers it was a nightmare then.
you're right though that Scudamore wants to raise the HG quota.
I thought he wanted to raise the Brittish Quota to help the England team im sure it was to 5 and going up to 8 in five years.Thats why i said it was weakening the prem.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9786002/premier-league-bosses-back-greg-dyke8217s-quota-plan
Sorry, Dyke not Scudamore!
Would be nice to have a good english team again (Or wherever you are from the isles!)
Last time I got really excited was 96
Berbatov on a free...
Medal available.
take the medal
Badaboom!
Goaty balls fave defensive mid!
I'd prefer him over the Nando's!
And ffs, do we have shares in Porto??? We're being linked with two more of their players!
Press are at opposite poles with De Bruyne, some convinced he'll stay, some that he'll leave.
Otamendi in the picture, red tops stating we're stealing him from Utd...
Do we need him?
Demi prob in his last season
Mangala looks like bambi on ice
Denayer unknown
I'd say yes and loan out Mangala to someone like Villa, could do him a world of good with a season with someone else in the prem under his belt.
Quote from: Swiss on July 21, 2015, 20:33:40
Press are at opposite poles with De Bruyne, some convinced he'll stay, some that he'll leave.
Otamendi in the picture, red tops stating we're stealing him from Utd...
Do we need him?
Demi prob in his last season
Mangala looks like bambi on ice
Denayer unknown
I'd say yes and loan out Mangala to someone like Villa, could do him a world of good with a season with someone else in the prem under his belt.
What have you got against Villa? :D
I estimated we had roughly £240m (with player sales) to spend this window/season.
So far we have
£44m (£5m on add ons that haven't been spent yet). Sterling
8m Delph
8m Roberts (£3m add ons).
£2m Unal
£2m Faupala (assumed).
Total £64m
£240m - £64m = £176m left in the war chest: How to spend it???
Assuming we sell Dzeko & Jovetic, do we need a striker?
Aguero, Bony, Iheanacho With Sterling/Nasri as emergency striker: It's a gamble but if we're only playing one up top then why would we need another?
Wide fwd/mid: We assume we're in for De Bruyne. We have Sterling, Navas, Roberts, Barker. Depending on loans for the kids, Yes, at least one.
Creative CM: We have Silva, Nasri, Rony Lopes: Good here
Box 2 Box/ General/ goal scorer: Yaya: Need to strengthen here
Holding/ Defensive Mid/ We have Delph, Fernando, F'Dinho, Zucullini, Manu Garcia: We're too heavy here, need to lose one or two,
LB: Clichy, Kolarov, Angelino. Possible change in one of the players as both turn 30 this year. Angelino on loan.
RB: Zabba, Sagna, Maffeo: No real need to change this season. Sagna is 32 and would be "A" change, but not necessary this year.
CB: Kompany, Demichelis, Mangala, Denayer. Demi turns 35 in December, Mangala hasn't convinced anyone yet, Denayer unproven. I'd say yes to strengthen.
GK: Hart, Willy, Wright: No need to buy save to replace Willy (no pun intended).
So:
1 x Winger
1 x Mid General/Box2boxer
1 x LB
1 x CB
£176m
Who would you buy!? (You don't have to fill all 4 roles).
Quote from: bry the guy on July 21, 2015, 20:50:33
Quote from: Swiss on July 21, 2015, 20:33:40
Press are at opposite poles with De Bruyne, some convinced he'll stay, some that he'll leave.
Otamendi in the picture, red tops stating we're stealing him from Utd...
Do we need him?
Demi prob in his last season
Mangala looks like bambi on ice
Denayer unknown
I'd say yes and loan out Mangala to someone like Villa, could do him a world of good with a season with someone else in the prem under his belt.
What have you got against Villa? :D
:D
Well they've lost Vlaar and I suspect they'll be under a lot of defensive pressure... How best to sort out his bambi on ice look!?
hamsik!
pushing it calling yaya box to box now the lazy cnut
wouldnt mind a leftback that isnt clichy or kolarov
Yes we certainly could do with a new left back.
Quote from: goat on July 21, 2015, 21:27:39
hamsik!
pushing it calling yaya box to box now the lazy cnut
He was... til he got past it
wouldnt mind a leftback that isnt clichy or kolarov
Otamendi's being talked about in the papers now, anything to improve the back four will be needed, they must be on it surely?
So we've got:
Hamsik (guessing £35m) or Pogba (rumoured £70m)
Otamendi (rumoured £35m)
De Brunye (rumoured £45m)
That's either £61m or £26m left to spend on a lb.
Any suggestions?
Hasn't Otamendi been shipped out to Brazil on loan...is he really that good then?
I've NO idea, but we need to strengthen the back.
Just checked, Otamendi was loaned out to some club in Brazil in February 2014 when Velencia had bought him but then played a full season for Valencia from August 2014 to close (38 apps).
I know the Rags have been heavily linked with him so it might be that the red tops are just stirring or his agent is trying to hurry up a potential deal by saying others are interested...
For CB:
Sergio Ramos seems to be available. Hot headed, 29, likened to Paolo Maldini...: perfect age for a CB, but is it perfect temperment? Can Fill in at RB when needed. Winning mentality.
Thiago Silva (No links to him in press) but Baresi has stated he's the defender who currently most resembles his playing style... Turns 31 in September so not quite as attractive as Ramos (Steady now) but again a winning mentality.
Giorgio Chiellini (Again no links... this year!). 31 in August. Another agressive player. Hard tackler, good in the air.. Versatile at LB. Looks mental...
All three are fast, have good technical ability, plenty of experience & consistent. I'd be happy with any of them.
Otamendi, 27: Game time wise, he's played a fraction of what the other two have. 235 senior games since 2007. Covering 8 seasons that's an average of 29 games per season incl. all cup games.
Thiago Silva, 379 games over what looks like 10 seasons... Average of 37.9 games per season
Sergio Ramos, 494 games over 12 seasons. Average of 41.1 games per season despite being the record holder for red cards for Real Madrid!
Giorgio Chiellini. 466 games over 15 seasons. Average of 31 games per season and this takes into account his 3 break through years where he only had a maximum of 7 games in a year for Livorno.
I think Ramos (If true he can leave RM) would be around the £35 to 40m mark. He's also the youngest out of the three more established CB's.
If they don't want to sell then his price may double... but we'd be getting someone of quality we know isn't bambi on ice.
daniel and christian maldini
if they are a quarter as good as the old man we will be set for 20 years
I don't know much about players in Europe but Paolo Maldini is a legend so his kids would be worth it -except that my dad was a good dancer and I've got 3 left feet so it doesn't always follow. My dad was also very handsome... and that didn't follow either :(
The moaning that's still going on about how much City are ready to spend is becoming a complete fucking bore now. it seems like every paper, every blog in the sport I'm sick of them. In fact I've decided Sterling is the best player we've ever bought and I feckin love him from now on and the young lads too. The oil money is wasted on anything other than football IMO so keep blowing it Sheik Mansour old lad We're right with you. It'll be the most expensive Silverware ever and it'll be ours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrMz_qm9s_Y
already better than fernando
:o Bloody hell! Get the kid in!
Only remember Otamendi from 2010 world cup, he was very. very poor.
Whats wrong with Bonucci as a defender?
Denayer and Mangled need to shine, difficult to do that if they are not playing.
Toure is no longer a regular starter for me. Given his wages, he is a very expensive and no doubt disruptive bench warmer. He should have been top of the list for replacements. No other club would pay what we are paying him, so unless we can engineer some exit, with a golden goodbye, he will be like an albatross round the neck for the next two years. A very slow, jogging type albatross.
After buying the young ones, it's all gone dead again. DeBruyn is finally thinking about maybe moving on, perhaps, well, it's worth thinking about, well it's nice to think some big club wants you...lalala ... but nowt else is happening unless Cheeky B is working below the radar
34 days and 21 hours of the transfer window left
Quote from: Swiss on July 28, 2015, 20:13:28
34 days and 21 hours of the transfer window left
No it isn't.
tis according to this webbie
http://www.epfl-europeanleagues.com/leagues_transfer_window.htm (http://www.epfl-europeanleagues.com/leagues_transfer_window.htm)
/and the prem league official site confirms that it closes on the 1st September at 18:00
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/summer-transfer-window-2015.html (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/summer-transfer-window-2015.html)
The official Fifa Transfer management system website also lists the closure as 1st septemeber
http://www.fifatms.com/en/Football-Data/transfer-windows/ (http://www.fifatms.com/en/Football-Data/transfer-windows/)
:D
Put a count down clock on here to save any arguments'
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150901T18&p0=1351&font=cursive
Someone went fishing and caught a whopper
So we need a CM: Other than goats monotonous suggestion of Hamsik who is not a midfield general... who's out there in the talasmanic form? That midfield general we're lacking.
Thiago Alacantre?
Blaise Matuidi?
Javi Martinez?
Ilkay Gundogen?
Hernanes?
Lars Bender?
stop using football manager
weve the perfect lad under our nose
big and strong
used to the shitness of england
a winner
paddy viera
Heard wiltshere has handed in a transfer request , any truth ?
dont want a injury prone cheat im my mcfc team fuck him
Truely would be the most hated team in the Prem then!
Quote from: goat on August 02, 2015, 22:50:40
stop using football manager
weve the perfect lad under our nose
big and strong
used to the shitness of england
a winner
paddy viera
Cheeky...
Though I don't think any of them are like Paddy Viera really. I'm struggling to think of any that are talasmanic in the form of Viera, Gerrard, Lampard etc.
If you look at our central mid you're not exactly 'scared' of anyone bar Silva and he's a completely different type of scary.
When the chips are down, we need a leader in the middle.
Christ! Some of you go off about Sterling, but he'll be a model pro compared to fecking Wilshere. No thanks.
Meanwhile, in other news - Rafael looks to be leaving the swamp for Lyon. I'll be sorry to see him go. Rafael was a gift that just kept giving
Quote from: Swiss on August 03, 2015, 12:19:18
Truely would be the most hated team in the Prem then!
Quote from: goat on August 02, 2015, 22:50:40
stop using football manager
weve the perfect lad under our nose
big and strong
used to the shitness of england
a winner
paddy viera
Cheeky...
Though I don't think any of them are like Paddy Viera really. I'm struggling to think of any that are talasmanic in the form of Viera, Gerrard, Lampard etc.
If you look at our central mid you're not exactly 'scared' of anyone bar Silva and he's a completely different type of scary.
When the chips are down, we need a leader in the middle.
do we really, do barca and real have some big lump in the middle?
i cant think of anyone bar paddy v, although khedira on a free would have been decent
I would have said masher-Rano but he plays cb these days.
So your argument there is a hard working technical midfield?
And what we're missing is work ethic in the centre?
I can see Delph being a busy player...
in an ideal world it would be like dortmund with the strikers working their bollocks off to win the ball back before it even gets to midfield
How many midfield players do we need?
Man City transfer news: Wolfsburg boss believes target De Bruyne will snub Blues - http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-transfer-news-wolfsburg-9776034
We don't need some of the ones we have, which is the problem
Quote from: Chippy_Tea on August 03, 2015, 18:38:31
How many midfield players do we need?
well toure is finished
fernando never started
nasri is a shithouse that goes missing
navas is one of the worst crossers of a ball ive seen for a winger and thats if he does cross and not do that thing of beating the fullback and then laying it back to zabba for some reason
we need a whole midfield
Jankles Wilshere is injured, again. Surely we cannot be stupid enough to sign the sick note.
I take it De Bruyne is coming in.
In my opinion Toure needs to go. Who to replace him, or at least add to somewhere in the centre? Witsel/Kroos/Hamsik/Isco? I am guessing this is wishful thinking, he will be "honouring" his contract as no one else can pay his "generous" wages. No cakes necessary.
Forwards We have Bony and Aguero, after Jovetic and Dzeko go. One more in? Morata at Juve would do.
Quote from: goat on August 03, 2015, 23:08:00
Quote from: Chippy_Tea on August 03, 2015, 18:38:31
How many midfield players do we need?
well toure is finished
fernando never started
nasri is a shithouse that goes missing
navas is one of the worst crossers of a ball ive seen for a winger and thats if he does cross and not do that thing of beating the fullback and then laying it back to zabba for some reason
we need a whole midfield
I cannot argue with that.
We have been linked to De Bruyne and others the problem we have is we cannot shift the ones we already have. (from OS)
Midfielders
Bruno Zuculini
Fabian Delph
Fernandinho Luiz Roza
Fernando Francisco Reges
Raheem Sterling
Marcos Lopes
Samir Nasri
Jesus Navas
David Silva
Yaya Toure
with any luck that lopes can be the spare creative lad for when silva needs a rest
been reading a bit out roy keane and paddy v raving about some irish lad we sent to holland, could save a few quid if he turns out well
Missing that Manu Garcia lad who impressed on tour.
To be honest, the three that didn't impress last season were the Nando's & Toure.
Delph looks to have the work rate which will be welcome.
I think we'll play 5 in the "middle".
Two Box to boxers: Silva in the hole and De Bruyne/ Sterling as wide forwards, merging from 451 to 433
I think this is how we will line up against WBA
------------------Bony--------------------
Sterling--------------------------------Navas
----------------Silva--------------------------
-----------Toure----Fernandinho-------------
Kolarov--------------------------------Sagna
-----------Mangala----Kompany-------------
-------------------Hart-----------------------
With a view to this in the future
------------------Aguero--------------------
Sterling-----------------------------De Bruyne
----------------Silva--------------------------
-----------Delph----Pogba-------------
Kolarov--------------------------------Zabba
-----------A.n.other----Kompany-------------
-------------------Hart-----------------------
how did that work for you on footy manager tone?
i still think the old milan 4-3 -2 -1 would suit us a lot better
ok we dont have rui costa and rivaldo but silva and aguero behind bony would be pretty good
Lost 5-0
(Didn't actually try it!)
Goodbye Edin.
I thought people were saying Demi was old ,slow and passed it two years ago ?
SWISS
------------Demi---------Kompany-----------
so selling dzeko frees up some wages to buy?
i wish we had sorted all the business before we face the baggies
Quote from: andy1966 on August 05, 2015, 09:35:13
I thought people were saying Demi was old ,slow and passed it two years ago ?
SWISS
------------Demi---------Kompany-----------
He's still our second best central defender; We do need to move on from him though as he's getting on a bit. But experience wise no complaints.
Godin (Age 29) being touted as a potential buy now.
(http://www.squawka.com/wp-content/themes/squawka_web/uploaded_icons/players/p1552c72j2.jpg)
Looks a bit spesh... but:
92 Caps for Uruguay
436 Club appearances (30 goals)
Honours
Club
Atlético Madrid
La Liga: 2013â€"14
Copa del Rey: 2012â€"13
Supercopa de España: 2014; Runner-up 2013
UEFA Europa League: 2011â€"12
UEFA Super Cup: 2010, 2012
UEFA Champions League: Runner-up 2013â€"14
International
Copa América: 2011
FIFA World Cup Fourth Place: 2010
FIFA Confederations Cup Fourth Place: 2013
Individual
La Liga Player of the Month: April 2014, May 2014
UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2013â€"14
UEFA Team of the Year: 2014
I'd be over the blue moon with this one! At 29, still got 4 good seasons in him. Loads of experience. Got a bag load of honours, where do we sign :D
Contracted until 2018 so it doesn't smell of him trying to win a new contract...
We help him out with one last big pay day, he helps us out win a bag load of trophies, jobs a goodun...
where you hear about this tony?
http://www.football-espana.net/53188/man-city-eyeing-godin (http://www.football-espana.net/53188/man-city-eyeing-godin)
There's also a story on Sporting Witness but I can't access that at work.
I hope it's true, I can live without Pogba if we get in Godin and De Bruyne.
It's starting to gather pace in other sources now.
As with all Spanish contracts, there is a release clause: Godin's is apparently E40.
For some reason work have blocked the conversion sites so I can't tell what current market values are, but guestimating Dzeko's E20m is £14m, then that puts the figure at £28m. A Bargain in these climates for a well seasoned CB.
In other news, De Bruyne has reportedly come out and said "I'm not the one saying I'll definitely stay" which has sparked the red tops into a Frenzy and (As always) Utd are now being linked with him too.
From what I've read over the last few weeks is that we haven't even put a bid in for him yet...
From what I can see, our Nett spend at the moment is £22m (or £32m depending on below)
Sterling - £44m initial fee (5m dependent so doesn't count atm)
Fabian Delph - £8m
=£52m
As I understand it, Fee's for youth developement don't count... so
Unal - £2m
Faupal - £U/K
Roberts - £8 initail Fee (£3m add ons)
wont count, if they do it's £62m spend.
Sales
Jovetic - £11m (Loan with buy at the end, we know we can count the money now due to the Negredo deal)
Dzeko - £14m
Boyata - £1.5m
Rekik - £3.5m
= £30m
Nett = £22 or £32
De Bruyne = E60m (£42m)
Godin = E40m (£28m)
Total Nett = £70m
Missed out Sinclair's £2.5m fee.
I estimated at the beginning of this thread we have a £150m "Warchest" from the new premleague deal and the winnings from last season.
Total spend could be (expensive estimate): £62 + £70 = £132m
Total Recouped: £32.5m
Total Nett spend = £99.5m
£50.5m spare, just enough to spend on Pogba ;)
Quote from: Swiss on August 06, 2015, 13:39:32
It's starting to gather pace in other sources now.
As with all Spanish contracts, there is a release clause: Godin's is apparently E40.
For some reason work have blocked the conversion sites so I can't tell what current market values are, but guestimating Dzeko's E20m is £14m, then that puts the figure at £28m. A Bargain in these climates for a well seasoned CB.
Doesn't look like that one will be happening
Godin to pen new Atletico deal (http://www.marca.com/en/2015/08/06/en/football/spanish_football/1438871484.html?cid=SMBOSO34503&s_kw=twitterCM&t=517131480=Twitter)
Yer, disapointing :(
Turns out he must have been using us to get a new deal
Come on Sore Burger, pull your fingers out of your Arse's!
Quote from: Swiss on August 06, 2015, 14:11:17
As I understand it, Fee's for youth developement don't count... so
Whats classed as youth development?
Precisely... I'm not sure
Well aren't you crap
I just had a crap :-)