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Title: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 19, 2015, 14:22:52
Surely time to tell Liverpool to Fook off
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: clevblue on June 19, 2015, 16:39:57
Sterling's already told them. Best for City to wait and see. I wouldn't jump in with another offer, even if it's all true
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: gavin on June 19, 2015, 19:54:27
At least he's only twenty so he still has a lot of improving to do. Mind you, doesn't he only have a year on his contract? If so then Liverpool are playing a dangerous game.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on June 19, 2015, 19:55:49
Two years left I think.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 19, 2015, 23:10:56
Quote from: gavin on June 19, 2015, 19:54:27
At least he's only twenty so he still has a lot of improving to do. Mind you, doesn't he only have a year on his contract? If so then Liverpool are playing a dangerous game.

yeah but Gav...didnt we say that about Micah (and a few others)  :D

Walk away City, I know Bodgers will waste the cash but Id rather us buy somebody else (not Wilshire ffs)
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: reddishblue on June 19, 2015, 23:28:29
Marko Pjaca? Probably a few quid cheaper.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 20, 2015, 02:46:11
Id put a bid in for Di Maria
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on June 20, 2015, 08:36:32
I don't know why everyone's so down on Sterling; he had a fairly decent season with 7 goals and 8 assists in the premier league. Contrast that with similar players like di Maria and Navas who managed only 3 goals between them - none of them from Navas.

As for the price, there's always going to be a 'City Premium' applied to any transfer. It's the downside to being loaded.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 20, 2015, 09:20:20
id want a lot more than "decent" for 40 + million, must be a shedload of players better than him in italy, spain or germany or invest that cash in better scouts
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 20, 2015, 09:22:17
Navas was our top assister last season...

Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 20, 2015, 09:24:19
stats all over his face

11 ( from site i found) is still a bit shit for a team that plays 4-4-2 and has aguero upfront
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on June 20, 2015, 09:25:27
Quote from: goat on June 20, 2015, 09:20:20
id want a lot more than "decent" for 40 + million, must be a shedload of players better than him in italy, spain or germany or invest that cash in better scouts

So would I but its not my money and I'm sure there are better out there but they'll not be cheaper.

We should just buy Southampton scouts.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 20, 2015, 09:27:17
I didn't say he had a good season, just not as bad as some make out.


Southampton have a few decent ballers. I'd swap them Fernando for schniederlin in a heart beat
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 20, 2015, 09:27:37
might be if you know what you are doing and not just picking players based of fantasy football like i think the spanish are

tony, anyone good out there  on a bosman ? missed out on khedira
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 20, 2015, 09:28:16
Quote from: Swiss on June 20, 2015, 09:27:17
I'd swap them Fernando for schniederlin in a heart beat

:D
somehow i doubt they would
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 20, 2015, 09:44:22
Not sure how out of date this article is but these are players who had their deals running out this summer.

Cheillini
Delph
Konoplyanka
Lichsteiner
Ranocchia
Huntelaar
Glen Johnson...
Our De Jong!!!
Stevie best mate. Adebayor
Abate
Ron vlaar
Gignac
Fabian Schar
Younes Kaboul
John Terry
Winston  Reid
Van der vaart

Some of those may have signed new deals...
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 20, 2015, 09:46:32
chielini, lichsteiner and huntelaar if you are offering tone
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 20, 2015, 09:52:00
I'd also take van der vaart too!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 20, 2015, 09:59:18
all more use than the dipper and a lot of change from the 40 mill
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 20, 2015, 11:07:29
De Maria could be good signing and Fook it , bring back tevez and de Jong
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 20, 2015, 11:33:26
I'm not sure about Di MAria... his face freaks me out a little...
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: The Blue Blooded Maniac on June 20, 2015, 13:23:52
and his name sounds like diarrhea. Perfect at the swamp
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Lekos on June 20, 2015, 22:27:38
Pretty sure Van der vaart has gone to Betis
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on June 20, 2015, 23:30:03
Quote from: Ludo on June 20, 2015, 08:36:32
I don't know why everyone's so down on Sterling

I'm not. If we got him I think he'll turn out a good buy for us (with a bit of luck and a bit of work).

And we need 'British' players...
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 21, 2015, 00:57:44
Quote from: Ludo on June 20, 2015, 08:36:32
I don't know why everyone's so down on Sterling;

Probably because he is a whinging little twot who seems to think/believe he is better than he is, he's doesnt come across as a pro attitude player like Silva or Zab who just get on with it, being around yaya could make him worse, a lot worse, birthday cakes/cards or some other pathetic issue.

He's a pretty good prem player imo, nowhere near the quality of Bale or Di Maria (who has been fucked positionwise about by van gaal)

Id put his value at about 28 mill, but due to the above issues I dont really want him at City any more than I want serial nutcase nightclubber Wilshire

I really dont want City being a mega ATM for Wenger anymore and I dont want us to give 45 mill to Bodgers, there are much much cheaper English squad type players we could bring in (like Richard Wright) to meet the criteria.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on June 21, 2015, 02:43:42
A pro footballer who whinges - well fancy that... Yes, some pros like Silva and Zab are exemplary, but most clubs are full of egos like Sterling's. 

Sterling certainly has a few rough edges that need sorting out. He's had an 'interesting' life (difficult childhood, father murdered etc). Not surprised he has a few issues, but he's still very young and there's plenty of scope for developing maturity. My one concern as far as his character is concerned is the whiff of a suggestion he might have some anger management issues where women are concerned - but all alleged and nothing proven. Proceed with caution...

On the football side of things, he'd give our attack some much needed pace, backed up with some genuine ability and skill. Not the finished article yet, but the potential is clearly there.

Sometimes you have to take a punt on a player on the way up and get in on the ground floor. City don't have a tremendously good record with this sort of thing - too many developing players who stop developing when they join us, or too many established stars who turn out to be a bit past their best after they arrive. But you have to speculate to accumulate, and wouldn't it be nice if City finally got one of these right and we saw a young player like Sterling develop into a real star and a model professional in our colours.

Admittedly the money being asked by Liverpool is ridiculous, and might be better spent on some established big name - but that assumes the big names are flocking to our door. Forget about the pipe dream of Bale joining us - he's not leaving Real Madrid any time soon (unless someone at City completely loses the plot and offers a swap for Aguero... and I for one would be disgusted with that)
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 21, 2015, 03:48:20
I agree about taking a punt on a young player

just not at 40plus million and 150k a week

we could buy Ballo back for much less, take a punt on him  :D

anyway I have a strong feeling he will be a City player soon so I hope he turns out great and I turn out to be 100% wrong
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 21, 2015, 04:06:32
Looks like we are going to get Sterling no matter what .
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: andy1966 on June 21, 2015, 09:00:16
NO ! NO ! No !  According to Sky City will pay £50 million for him

WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY One thing is for sure , the dippers will end up with two much better players for their 50 million
I bet city end up selling him for about 22 million within two years

A shit day to be a blue (if True)
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 21, 2015, 09:09:25
Quote from: andy1966 on June 21, 2015, 09:00:16


WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY One thing is for sure , the dippers will end up with two much better players for their 50 million


ah come on

ricki lambert and the rest of the suarez money. chances are they will spend the 50 million on fernando and navas
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 21, 2015, 09:58:49
Don't think any one else would pay 50 for him never mind 30 .
Not sure if this is going to be an embarrassment to get him at any cost !!!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 21, 2015, 10:07:54
Quote from: goat on June 21, 2015, 09:09:25
Quote from: andy1966 on June 21, 2015, 09:00:16


WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY One thing is for sure , the dippers will end up with two much better players for their 50 million


ah come on

ricki lambert and the rest of the suarez money. chances are they will spend the 50 million on fernando and navas

yeah they were 2 more great buys since Mancini left, cant we sell Mangalla to them ? somebody at City thought he was worth 34 million

Looking back now Mancini was a genius at buying players
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 21, 2015, 10:12:23
as long as you dont mention garcia
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 21, 2015, 10:26:11
Word is lfc want benteke. I hope they get charged 50 mil for him too! They're only making a rod for their own back!

Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on June 21, 2015, 11:54:52
No he's not worth £50m but if Pellegrini is happy to have him and the owners are happy to buy him then that's what he might have to cost. No doubt we'd have to pay over the odds for de Bruyne or Pogba too if the deals are to be done.

That's the problem with being minted.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on June 21, 2015, 12:02:25
A friend of mine in the UK has just told me via email that he thinks we are after Sterling AND Wilshere.

No particular reason why he should be 'in the know' (although he does have a sports media connection... )  but bloody hell, if that turns out to be true there will be some grumpy navel gazing on this forum. Me included - I can't stand Wilshere!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on June 21, 2015, 13:19:15
The Wilshere speculation has been in the papers for a while now and yes, he's not the most likeable of footballers but then again neither was Nasri, Tevez nor Bellamy.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 21, 2015, 13:26:04
Quote from: goat on June 21, 2015, 10:12:23
as long as you dont mention garcia

good with his head though

and the girlies liked him
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on June 21, 2015, 13:49:50
Quote from: Ludo on June 21, 2015, 13:19:15
The Wilshere speculation has been in the papers for a while now and yes, he's not the most likeable of footballers but then again neither was Nasri, Tevez nor Bellamy.

I'd just assumed the recent Wilshere speculation was just a deliberate City fake move to try and encourage / panic Liverpool into parting with Sterling. Never occurred to me that City might be after both!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 21, 2015, 13:55:39
Wilsher reminds my of Rooney , hateful fooker!!!!!!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: andy1966 on June 21, 2015, 15:27:42
"I can't stand Wilshere! " at least he can share a half time fag with Yaya lol
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 21, 2015, 17:56:49
Well he can't be worse than Fernando!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: The Blue Blooded Maniac on June 21, 2015, 18:09:09
Quote from: Ludo on June 21, 2015, 13:19:15
The Wilshere speculation has been in the papers for a while now and yes, he's not the most likeable of footballers but then again neither was Nasri, Tevez nor Bellamy.

Can relate with Bellamy though. Who doesn't like smacking a ginge?
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 22, 2015, 04:12:35
This might go away with wilshere , not sure about Sterling though .
I just wish we could shaft those greedy fookers Liverpool and walk away
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bluebrendan on June 22, 2015, 11:04:14
I don't understand all the angst about signing Sterling, we need HG players for the CL squad, who is out there that's better than Sterling and likely to be available? As for the price well we all know there's a premium on HG players, like it or not City have to fork out the money in the circumstances and it will be like this until the Academy produces.

As far as non-HG signings go it has to be one in and one out because we're at our max. allowed quota for the CL and PL squads.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: zacc on June 22, 2015, 11:46:06
seems obsessional to me on City's part chasing after this inexperienced, not proven, egotistical person!!   ???
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bluebrendan on June 22, 2015, 11:59:16
Quote from: zacc on June 22, 2015, 11:46:06
seems obsessional to me on City's part chasing after this inexperienced, not proven, egotistical person!!   ???
One very good season and one reasonable season behind him, he's hardly unproven. Most top players have an ego, the trick is in managing them. Clearly he needs to cut out the "hippy crack" stuff but he's young enough to have that dealt with by firm management unlike say Wilshere who is three years older and will most likely never be anything other than a bellend.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Lekos on June 22, 2015, 12:40:18
Quite an interesting article from Barney Ronay of the Guardian on this. 

Raheem Sterling can be reborn at Manchester City â€" with or without the gas and air (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jun/19/raheem-sterling-manchester-city-liverpool)

QuoteBy contrast Sterling often still seems to be all brittle, high-tension endeavour, operating right at the peak of his speed and intensity, never quite ahead of the game. With this in mind a move to City may be just what he needs to open that footballing third eye a little further. Sterling’s best days at Liverpool came alongside Luis Suárez, whose special superpower, it turns out, is to flood the front end of any team with his own relentless creative intelligence. Just as Sterling bloomed next to Suárez, he would surely do so alongside Silva and Agüero, absorbing by osmosis, filling in the gaps in his range, adding the missing gears.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 22, 2015, 13:52:31
Quote from: bluebrendan on June 22, 2015, 11:04:14
I don't understand all the angst about signing Sterling, we need HG players for the CL squad, who is out there that's better than Sterling and likely to be available? As for the price well we all know there's a premium on HG players, like it or not City have to fork out the money in the circumstances and it will be like this until the Academy produces.

As far as non-HG signings go it has to be one in and one out because we're at our max. allowed quota for the CL and PL squads.

I just dont get it, I dont see whats worth 50 million quid about him, yes he can run with the ball like SWP could, but wheres the end product ?
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 22, 2015, 14:03:36
agree with wizard boy

we already had sterling, we just called him scott sinclair
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bluebrendan on June 22, 2015, 14:14:02
Quote from: nimrod on June 22, 2015, 13:52:31
Quote from: bluebrendan on June 22, 2015, 11:04:14
I don't understand all the angst about signing Sterling, we need HG players for the CL squad, who is out there that's better than Sterling and likely to be available? As for the price well we all know there's a premium on HG players, like it or not City have to fork out the money in the circumstances and it will be like this until the Academy produces.

As far as non-HG signings go it has to be one in and one out because we're at our max. allowed quota for the CL and PL squads.

I just dont get it, I dont see whats worth 50 million quid about him, yes he can run with the ball like SWP could, but wheres the end product ?

Last two PL seasons:

Sterling - 16 goals and 12 assists
Navas - 4 goals and 15 assists
Milner - 6 goals and 11 assists

I think we can agree he's a definite upgrade and can also improve further over the next few years playing alongside the likes of Silva and Aguero. What exactly is a realistic price, was it realistic when we paid £1m for Trevor Francis when we couldn't afford it? Now we can afford it and although I'm sure the owners would prefer to pay less there is a premium on young English players because there are so few that are any good. Watch how much Spurs will screw the rags for if they go after Kane.

Quote from: goat on June 22, 2015, 14:03:36
agree with wizard boy

we already had sterling, we just called him scott sinclair

Come off it Steve, there's no comparison between him and Sinclair, Sterling will start plenty of games at City!  :o
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on June 22, 2015, 14:15:18
not if ive got anything to do with it!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: alexsam on June 22, 2015, 20:28:19
Quote from: andy1966 on June 21, 2015, 09:00:16
NO ! NO ! No !  According to Sky City will pay £50 million for him

WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY One thing is for sure , the dippers will end up with two much better players for their 50 million
I bet city end up selling him for about 22 million within two years

A shit day to be a blue (if True)

Your last line is a bit over the top.

We after signing an up and coming talent not ruining football.........
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on June 22, 2015, 23:06:42
Quote from: bluebrendan on June 22, 2015, 14:14:02

Last two PL seasons:

Sterling - 16 goals and 12 assists
Navas - 4 goals and 15 assists
Milner - 6 goals and 11 assists


That alone should knock the "not proven" stuff on the head.

As Brendan says - if you want quality home grown talent (that's available) - where else are you going to find it?

It seems some of you would rather we waste money on 'nice' HG players, with no ego, and squeaky clean private lives - but hey, who cares if they can't trap a bag of wet cement?

There's only so much room to fit these mandatory HG players into the squad, so don't go thinking we can just buy any old HG hoofer and then hide these 'drinks carriers' in there. With injuries these players will inevitably get games - big games - European games - and they'll have to be able to cut it.

In these circumstances, and a limited pool of available HG talent, it's inevitable that we'll end up paying over the odds.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 22, 2015, 23:19:51
I think it's the being held to ransom more than Sterling himself.

I hope if we get him, LFC are held to ransom too!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on June 22, 2015, 23:29:13
I don't like being held to ransom any more than the rest of you, especially by the likes of Liverpool - but that's just the way it is. There are precious few alternative avenues we can explore where quality home grown players are concerned.

Taking on Sterling is a bit of a gamble (all signings are) and I do have one or two reservations as I previously stated, but on the football side of things I think he'll flourish in City's team with the likes of Silva and Aguero around him. The article Lekos quoted makes some good points.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 23, 2015, 00:13:14
Last two PL seasons:

Sterling - 16 goals and 12 assists
Navas - 4 goals and 15 assists
Milner - 6 goals and 11 assists


aye Brendo but maybe/surely Navas & Milner together have only played roughly the same number of games that Sterling has, that means a lot more assists from them although he has got 6 more goals, how come Bayern or Barca arent sniffing round him ? Why are we the only club after him seemingly, and yet still being held to ransom (as if it was a bidding war)?
On top of this nobody likes him, not even his own fans

A lot saying he's got time to improve, same as we did with Ballo, SWP, Micah, Ireland etc (they didnt) I just think for the price he should be the finished article, Im sorry its just my opinion that City are being fucking daft IF they pay this, mind you thats becoming a regular occurrence.

Cant the owners see its the manager that needs changing, even if we spend 90 mill on Wilshire and the scouse lad I still dont think Pelle will come out on top of Morurinho OR get further in the champs league, as tactically the engineer has shown himself to be inept time & time again with baffling team changes at critical times, we are still typical City under him, we still lose to Burnley...........and if the club has put itself into a position of having to buy HG players then why let players like Micah go on a free ? surely any club has to have squad type players like Richard Wright who dont expect to play.

Sorry, off topic rant over, hope to fuck Im wrong about him, I normally agree with you on City stuff Brendo and Im trying in this instance too mate but I just cant see it  ;D
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bluebrendan on June 23, 2015, 00:37:50
Yes Nimmers, I'm sure Sterling has played more seeing as Rodgers virtually ran him into the ground last season with Suarez gone, Sturridge injured and the other forwards not firing. The point is that he's produced those stats as a relative novice at 19 and 20 years old while Milner and Navas were both 28 and 29 in those two seasons and probably at their peak.

Real Madrid probably would be interested if they didn't have an embarrassment of riches with Bale, Ronaldo, Benzema, Isco, James etc. It was Benitez who was the manager when Liverpool signed him from QPR.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 23, 2015, 02:00:37
Just read some info from an ITK

its all a smoke screen, Messi arrives next week

:D
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 23, 2015, 11:17:42
We might get henderson as well for 50 million
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 23, 2015, 12:57:43
Do you want Henderson???  :o

We need Schniederlin though  8)
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: zacc on June 23, 2015, 15:20:18
Quote from: bluebrendan on June 22, 2015, 11:59:16
Quote from: zacc on June 22, 2015, 11:46:06
seems obsessional to me on City's part chasing after this inexperienced, not proven, egotistical person!!   ???
One very good season and one reasonable season behind him, he's hardly unproven. Most top players have an ego, the trick is in managing them. Clearly he needs to cut out the "hippy crack" stuff but he's young enough to have that dealt with by firm management unlike say Wilshere who is three years older and will most likely never be anything other than a bellend.

good season was alongside Suarez and Sturridge, reasonable season was until Sturridge was injured, guess it's hoped he'll come good again alongside Aguero & Bony? Still seems a lot of money for what is  mainly cos he's English reason.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 23, 2015, 15:28:05
To be fair, with no recognised striker, most teams would suffer creatively in both scoring and assisting.

We don't have to like the fee, but if he does sign, I hope we all get behind him.

Looks like the EU courts have defferred some FFP thingy as well.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 23, 2015, 21:39:37
Quote from: Swiss on June 23, 2015, 12:57:43
Do you want Henderson???  :o

We need Schniederlin though  8)
Henderson is a twot and Liverpool rely so much on him now . God help them
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 26, 2015, 10:38:57
Aldo thinks he's gonna turn out a bench warmer like Sinclair & Zaha

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2015/06/aldridge-sterling-will-be-expensive-mistake-for-man-city-lfc-transfer-news.html?
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bluebrendan on June 26, 2015, 11:24:05
Quote from: nimrod on June 26, 2015, 10:38:57
Aldo thinks he's gonna turn out a bench warmer like Sinclair & Zaha

http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2015/06/aldridge-sterling-will-be-expensive-mistake-for-man-city-lfc-transfer-news.html?

FFS he's far better than Sinclair or Zaha.

All these ex-dippers trying to tell us he's not good enough for our first team but they're desperate for him to stay at their mid-table club.  :D

And Lawro thinks he should stay at Liverpool because "they nearly won the league" in 2014. Maybe he'd prefer to be at a club that actually won it!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bluebrendan on June 26, 2015, 11:51:52
PMSL. this is Aldridge'sview in January.

Raheem Sterling could be as good as Messi and Ronaldo, says Liverpool legend John Aldridge

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2015/01/raheem-sterling-good-messi-ronaldo-says-liverpool-legend-john-aldridge/
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 26, 2015, 12:20:59
Quote from: bluebrendan on June 26, 2015, 11:51:52
PMSL. this is Aldridge'sview in January.

Raheem Sterling could be as good as Messi and Ronaldo, says Liverpool legend John Aldridge

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2015/01/raheem-sterling-good-messi-ronaldo-says-liverpool-legend-john-aldridge/

:D
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: The Blue Blooded Maniac on June 26, 2015, 13:28:45
Difference is Sinclair was shite at Chelsea and never played at the top level with any other team, and Zaha went from Championship to top four. At least Sterling is at a half decent level.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 27, 2015, 13:34:40
Hmmmm interesting..

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/raheem-sterling-to-manchester-city-50m-signing-from-liverpool-would-be-a-waste-of-money-research-suggests-10348338.html
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bluebrendan on June 27, 2015, 14:14:49
Quote from: nimrod on June 27, 2015, 13:34:40
Hmmmm interesting..

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/raheem-sterling-to-manchester-city-50m-signing-from-liverpool-would-be-a-waste-of-money-research-suggests-10348338.html

Grim stuff that, resorting to Footy Manager to predict what will happen.  :D
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on June 27, 2015, 19:50:37
The only 'interesting' thing is that someone actually printed that shit"
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on June 27, 2015, 23:59:14
Quote from: bluebrendan on June 27, 2015, 14:14:49
Quote from: nimrod on June 27, 2015, 13:34:40
Hmmmm interesting..

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/raheem-sterling-to-manchester-city-50m-signing-from-liverpool-would-be-a-waste-of-money-research-suggests-10348338.html

Grim stuff that, resorting to Footy Manager to predict what will happen.  :D

:D
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on June 28, 2015, 00:08:16
Not really up to the Independent's usual standard of football reporting that.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 28, 2015, 04:53:26
Can't see sterling living up to a 50 million tag
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on June 28, 2015, 09:53:57
I think he's got that cocky ego some players have that it wouldn't matter what the price was!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on June 28, 2015, 11:13:40
remains to be seen and now Pogba 71 million ffs
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on July 02, 2015, 00:29:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-4MefL-F8
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: lee on July 02, 2015, 15:13:02
Quote from: bluebrendan on June 26, 2015, 11:51:52
PMSL. this is Aldridge'sview in January.

Raheem Sterling could be as good as Messi and Ronaldo, says Liverpool legend John Aldridge

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2015/01/raheem-sterling-good-messi-ronaldo-says-liverpool-legend-john-aldridge/

weird fooker that aldridge...he reckons sterling is shit now and jordon ibe is mustard

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-3144914/Liverpool-sell-Raheem-Sterling-soon-possible-Jordon-Ibe-better-believes-John-Aldridge.html
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 02, 2015, 15:24:20
John Aldridge is a fookin twot , simple
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 05, 2015, 16:25:32
All gone a bit quiet with Stirling
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 05, 2015, 16:35:07
Players due back for pre-season on Monday so I imagine things will start picking up the pace now holidays are over.

I don't see why we don't offer Jovetic...
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on July 06, 2015, 00:57:11
Quote from: stephenmcfc on July 05, 2015, 16:25:32
All gone a bit quiet with Stirling


He's holding out for 4 Happy Meals per week plus a Subway Pannini on Bank Holidays.

Club are only prepared to offer him 2 Big Macs and a Strawberry Milk Shake.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 06, 2015, 04:46:28
rodgers has splashed out some cash on very average players . surley they need the Sterling money to balance the books
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on July 06, 2015, 06:28:36
Quote from: stephenmcfc on July 06, 2015, 04:46:28
rodgers has splashed out some cash on very average players . surley they need the Sterling money to balance the books

Rodgers is an idiot, he thought he was Shankly 2 seasons ago
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 06, 2015, 07:08:42
more like a wankley
he should have stayed were he was at Swansea to build on his career
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: lee on July 06, 2015, 08:23:13
tony is right..it will be this week we'll start spending

jovetic off to inter according to juventus president..as they said they dont want him
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 06, 2015, 09:01:37
so thats jovetic off to juventus
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: lee on July 06, 2015, 09:05:48
more than likely mate
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 06, 2015, 09:10:15
Wolfsburg claiming we've not even bid for De Brunye yet...
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 06, 2015, 16:02:29
that means we got him then
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 06, 2015, 16:04:09
nobody wants Nasri yet?
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 06, 2015, 16:43:35
A fully fit and motivated Nasri could be good if played off Serge!


If we get our top 3 targets:

----------------Serge-------------
De Brunye----Nasri---Sterling
---------Pogba-----Silva-----
Kola-------------------------Zabba
--------Demi------Vinny----------
-------------Hart--------------------


Could be a bit lightweight in the middle but with F'Dinho/Toure/Fern to add to the mix, it'll be easy to change the tactics
Lots of pace in there.

And Navas with a like for like.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 07, 2015, 02:34:24
exiting line up that
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: The Blue Blooded Maniac on July 07, 2015, 19:02:32
Its pretty exciting aswell!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 07, 2015, 20:53:26
conservatively you'd swap Silva for nasri and then Nasri out for Fernandinho or yaya
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 08, 2015, 15:10:44
Quote from: Durk on July 07, 2015, 19:02:32
Its pretty exciting aswell!
So am I !!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: The Blue Blooded Maniac on July 08, 2015, 18:44:19
Your pretty exciting? Nice one!  :P
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 08, 2015, 20:06:08
stevie is well exciting, im on the edge of my seat whenever hes about to try and do something computery
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 10, 2015, 09:42:08
Got a new iPad goat , I'm well chuffed
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 10, 2015, 10:08:41
very fancy chopping board stevie
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on July 10, 2015, 12:54:31
you'll have to get down to the app store Stevie
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 10, 2015, 19:49:02
Just switched it on. holy fook !!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: reddishblue on July 10, 2015, 22:29:12
The internet is still working, don't press any buttons.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 11, 2015, 06:56:12
Quote from: nimrod on July 10, 2015, 12:54:31
you'll have to get down to the app store Stevie
;) .
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Neil Mcnab on July 12, 2015, 13:36:03
Sterling isnt going on Liverpools tour so he can stay home and  top up on nitrous oxide, apparently.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 14:08:35
looks as though it's a go
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on July 12, 2015, 15:56:03
I as good as welcomed Delph as a Blue - and look how that turned out! Going to keep my mouth shut this time.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 12, 2015, 16:01:52
looks like we will sign Sterling in the next 24 hours
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 17:32:33
check the comments, LFC fans are funny :D

http://moresport.com/football/liverpools-sanctimonious-hypocrisy-over-sterling-to-city-is-laughable? (http://moresport.com/football/liverpools-sanctimonious-hypocrisy-over-sterling-to-city-is-laughable?)
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 18:25:54
£49mil... (£44 +£5)
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 12, 2015, 18:31:48
thank fook thats over
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 12, 2015, 18:49:31
Quote from: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 18:25:54
£49mil... (£44 +£5)

whats the £5, is fernando part of the deal?
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: KunDB on July 12, 2015, 18:57:38
Quote from: goat on July 12, 2015, 18:49:31
Quote from: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 18:25:54
£49mil... (£44 +£5)

whats the £5, is fernando part of the deal?

We can only hope he is.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 19:31:52
who knows, but the great thing is, FC don't get all the fee :D
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: gavin on July 12, 2015, 19:43:17
Well I can't see Sterling deciding to stay at Liverpool.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: andy1966 on July 12, 2015, 19:45:06
Absolutely gutted , never thought city would sign him he's not worth half that and he has "serious baggage"
he will disrupt the dressing room, and piss off other players when they learn what he is on
Today ,I'm glad I no longer pay to watch city 
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: gavin on July 12, 2015, 19:54:08
I don't think he has that much baggage. A bit of youthful stupidity, ego and petulance. Not really that unusual for a 20 year old footballer. Not sure he is good enough for the fee but he is 20 not 28 so nowhere near his peak yet so clearly we are buying potential. We will see how he develops as a footballer and a man.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 20:37:35
My hope is that we get behind him, yes let him prove himself but let's not hound him before he's kicked a ball!

F@â,¬k the fee. Still cheaper than di Maria ;-)
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 12, 2015, 21:25:29
£9.8m to QPR

LFC to only get £34m of the deal. no wonder they wanted a high fee!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: KunDB on July 12, 2015, 22:14:28
We need him whether he is good, great or dreadful as we desperately need pace and he has it in abundance. In a few years time his price will hopefully look pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on July 12, 2015, 23:22:04
Quote from: Zabba on July 12, 2015, 22:14:28
We need him whether he is good, great or dreadful as we desperately need pace and he has it in abundance. In a few years time his price will hopefully look pretty cheap.

expensive English bench warmer, we'll be selling him in 2 years when he goes on strike through not being picked every week
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on July 12, 2015, 23:30:43
Potentially a very good signing. I think he'll go OK in our team.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 13, 2015, 00:46:27
There's no point being negative about him, he's not played for us yet!
I an see another Edghill coming on...
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 13, 2015, 00:48:23
one thing if he does flop..if.. then he is young enough to be able to sell on

depends on pelle, cant see sterling doing a lot in his 4 4 fucking 2
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bry the guy on July 13, 2015, 01:03:25
We have spent 30m over the odds for Sterling i would rather have spent that on Pogba so why didnt we or wont we?
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 13, 2015, 01:24:18
to be fair pogba can do better than city
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on July 13, 2015, 01:24:51
Quote from: Swiss on July 13, 2015, 00:46:27
There's no point being negative about him, he's not played for us yet!
I an see another Edghill coming on...

Im only negative because I dont think he's worth 49 million

Same as I didnt think SWP was worth 30 million when chavs bought him

There was only us in for him, and he sort of went on strike so I think we could have got him cheaper if we had to have him (which seemingly we did)

Once again, were not good at buying (or selling)

would never Boo a City player though
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 13, 2015, 01:39:56
Quote from: goat on July 13, 2015, 00:48:23
one thing if he does flop..if.. then he is young enough to be able to sell on

depends on pelle, cant see sterling doing a lot in his 4 4 fucking 2

That's why i think we'll change to a 4-3-3/ 4-5-1 formation

Quote from: goat on July 13, 2015, 01:24:18
to be fair pogba can do better than city

Harsh but not without merit. A different kind of midfielder than barce normally operate. I'd still like to see him at city with De Bruyne as well.

Sterling 20, Pogba 22 & D Bruyne 24

That's a lot of years in them and could form a great axis
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 13, 2015, 03:05:49
We need to get right behind this young fella from the start because everyone else is out to fook him over .
i hope he proves those scouse fookers all wrong , deluded wankers
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on July 13, 2015, 08:33:59
If we are to play 4-4-2 I think Sterling's ideal.

He's fast, good with the ball at his feet and can score goals. He'll be playing in a better team so I'd expect his stats to do nothing but improve.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 13, 2015, 09:28:14
i think he will improve for both City and England
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: guidebridgeblue on July 13, 2015, 10:58:30
http://moresport.com/football/liverpools-sanctimonious-hypocrisy-over-sterling-to-city-is-laughable
  8)
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: zacc on July 13, 2015, 11:48:30
Quote from: andy1966 on July 12, 2015, 19:45:06
Absolutely gutted , never thought city would sign him he's not worth half that and he has "serious baggage"
he will disrupt the dressing room, and piss off other players when they learn what he is on
Today ,I'm glad I no longer pay to watch city

Actually I reckon once in the dressing room alongside the likes of Kompany, Toure and Hart he'll soon be cut down to size!!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 14, 2015, 12:50:59
Marsh reckons Sterling wont get his preferred position as a number 10...


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but he's more of a wide forward no?

He was pissed at LFC for them playing him out of position but I thought this was at RWB and as the central striker?


Interestingly this gave me the thought of this attack formation:


---------------------Serge----------------------
De Bruyne--------Sterling----------Navas
------------Pogba-----------Silva------------
Kolarov------------------------------Zabba
----------Demi---------Kompany-------------
----------------Hart------------------------------

Movement and pace are there, but you'd have to wonder what would happen when we don't have the ball...
Pellegrini has said previously that he doesn't like rigid formations so I can imagine the DB, RS, JN players would swap around.
However, I imagine that Navas would be swapped out for that extra bit of protection in midfield in F'Dinho or Yaya.

Of course, this rely's on us actually signing Pogba and De Bruyne.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bry the guy on July 14, 2015, 13:28:53
I would rather have Bony central than Sterling.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 14, 2015, 13:30:36
But then that changes things to a 4-4-2 and more likely Bony would be further up than Aguero who'd be given a free role?

Sterling would push out wide and Navas would drop to the bench.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 15, 2015, 07:57:20
Quote from: goat on July 13, 2015, 01:24:18
to be fair pogba can do better than city
you think so?
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on July 15, 2015, 09:45:21
There possibly two teams that might be in a better position to sign Pogba, Madrid and Barcelona
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Stephen Paul on July 15, 2015, 11:06:32
if he signs for Barca he cannot play for a bit
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 15, 2015, 13:20:49
They've signed Arda Turan and he can't play til the new year  :D

I don't think FIFA should allow them to conduct these deals #Transferban!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 15, 2015, 13:32:03
Quote from: stephenmcfc on July 15, 2015, 07:57:20
Quote from: goat on July 13, 2015, 01:24:18
to be fair pogba can do better than city
you think so?

aye
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 15, 2015, 13:33:02
Quote from: Ludo on July 15, 2015, 09:45:21
There possibly two teams that might be in a better position to sign Pogba, Madrid and Barcelona

do bayern have that kind of cash?
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 15, 2015, 13:46:44
It's hard to tell anymore who are the rich clubs and who are saddled with debt!

Do Real have that kind of cash now they're not allowed to be bank rolled by the royal family...

They've all fecked themselves over with FFP...
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Ludo on July 15, 2015, 14:25:38
Quote from: goat on July 15, 2015, 13:33:02
Quote from: Ludo on July 15, 2015, 09:45:21
There possibly two teams that might be in a better position to sign Pogba, Madrid and Barcelona

do bayern have that kind of cash?
c

Probably but they don't really tend to spend that type of cash.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: goat on July 16, 2015, 12:31:40
vidal to bayern about 30 mill
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 16, 2015, 13:25:09
So the £49 mil looks less and less from Liverpools perspective...

£9m went to QPR
£2m went to Aidy Ward

LFC get £38m: Still a lot though!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Rowley Birkin QC on July 16, 2015, 13:27:57
Nice to see we're sharing the love around then!

But apparently we're ruining football.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 16, 2015, 13:32:56
LFC ruin football anytime someone connected with the club opens their mouths!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 16, 2015, 13:52:41
Forgot to add, they're only guaranteed £33 mil as £5m was in add-ons.

Reports are they're about to spank £32.5m on Benteke to meet his release clause.

So in a blink of an eye the Sterling money has gone on a player that got 45% of his shots on target.
Translates to 64 shots
51 failed to convert to goals
13 goals

He got 2 assists out of 33 good scoring chances created.

Of course you'd expect his stats to improve as LFC are a better team than Villa, but £32.5 mil is a shocking amount for a player who only scored 13 goals last year  ;D
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Leewonpen on July 16, 2015, 19:12:29
Quote from: goat on July 16, 2015, 12:31:40
vidal to bayern about 30 mill

Guess that puts the kibosh on Pogba then.....
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bry the guy on July 16, 2015, 20:25:55
They get a deal done in one day we take months
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 16, 2015, 20:32:37
Quote from: Leewonpen on July 16, 2015, 19:12:29
Quote from: goat on July 16, 2015, 12:31:40
vidal to bayern about 30 mill

Guess that puts the kibosh on Pogba then.....

Not necessarily, but Juve will have to buy a brand new midfield with Vidal, Pirlo and poss Pogba gone/going!
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: bry the guy on July 16, 2015, 20:33:57
and tevez gone too.
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: nimrod on July 17, 2015, 00:24:49
Quote from: Swiss on July 16, 2015, 13:52:41
Forgot to add, they're only guaranteed £33 mil as £5m was in add-ons.

Reports are they're about to spank £32.5m on Benteke to meet his release clause.

So in a blink of an eye the Sterling money has gone on a player that got 45% of his shots on target.
Translates to 64 shots
51 failed to convert to goals
13 goals

He got 2 assists out of 33 good scoring chances created.

Of course you'd expect his stats to improve as LFC are a better team than Villa, but £32.5 mil is a shocking amount for a player who only scored 13 goals last year  ;D

and who will Villa replace him with? 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3164537/Tim-Sherwood-targeting-Tottenham-striker-Emmanuel-Adebayor-Christian-Benteke-s-shoes-Aston-Villa.html
Title: Re: Two bids rejected
Post by: Swiss on July 17, 2015, 12:49:04
ha ha ha!

It'd be worth a punt for the first 6 months until he's bored!

And Berbatov too!