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Started by Moz1959, August 16, 2017, 17:30:19

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nimrod

Quote from: Neil Mcnab on August 18, 2017, 01:02:45
In Pep we trust, or we dont. Its a matter of when, not if with Vinny. Evans is then the leader if he comes in. As for Denayer being better, someones having a laugh. He is a level down. Denayer is no Usain Bolt either.

I understand the Baggies are more compressed than we are, but Evans is no mug. Surely their best player.

I believe that he wont let us down.

Dick VD is not coming in, too expensive, we are keeping a few bob back in case we can still get Sanchez in.

well for a start I never said Denayer was better, I said I prefer him to Evans, to pay (its now 30 million) for a 4th choice 29 year old with a lousy pass ratio, when you have young up and coming players who want to improve and prove they can do it is lousy imo. What is the point of an academy?
Pep is clearly not interested in youth, his only objective is to win some big trophy this season or he's out on his arse


KunDB

That Evans played for Utd is not important for me if he is top class and fits the need.

To pay around £30m for a proven dud defender who clearly will not fit in with our high line defence needs; which requires a pacey highly skilled defender, which Evans is not, is to me just sheer madness.

They need to rethink this, do we ever learn from past mistakes?

I would sooner get a young promising pacey talented central defender, who yes will make mistakes occasionally (as will Evans), but is at least an investment for the future.

This wreaks of desperation which Pulis will enjoy exploiting to the full.

lee

Quote from: Zabba on August 18, 2017, 11:34:23


I would sooner get a young promising pacey talented central defender, who yes will make mistakes occasionally (as will Evans), but is at least an investment for the future.



we have one..he's called john stones

shandon

Quote from: nimrod on August 18, 2017, 09:49:25
well for a start I never said Denayer was better, I said I prefer him to Evans, to pay (its now 30 million) for a 4th choice 29 year old with a lousy pass ratio, when you have young up and coming players who want to improve and prove they can do it is lousy imo. What is the point of an academy?
Pep is clearly not interested in youth, his only objective is to win some big trophy this season or he's out on his arse

I don't think pep is too worried about his job security. We have some promising young players but not at CB really.

Gareth

No-one has mentioned Tosin in all of this. He must be a "promising young player" at CB? I don't really think he's quite ready - bit surprised he hasn't gone out on loan - if he's hanging around in Manchester behind VK (obviously), Stones, Ota, Mangala, Denayer (who all have squad numbers I think) and now Evans, what good is that going to do him or the club?

KunDB

Quote from: lee on August 18, 2017, 13:04:04
we have one..he's called john stones

I agree Lee. We definitely do not need to add a failed defender to prop up a failing John Stones and an already weak defence?

lee

Quote from: Zabba on August 18, 2017, 16:37:13
I agree Lee. We definitely do not need to add a failed defender to prop up a failing John Stones and an already weak defence?

give him a break pal

KunDB

#27
Sorry the reference 'a failing John Stone' just poor phrasing by me.

He still has a lot to learn but he is young and I believe he can still be top class given time.

A fit VK should help speed up his development.

Hesperus

WBA are trying to pull our pants down over the fee. Did you see Pulis' press conference? He was loving it, every player has his price, but It it has to be an amazing offer, blah, blah, blah. I really dislike that guy. He never fails to mention how much we've spent every time we thrash one of his teams.  18 mil is already over the top for Evans. If we pay more than 20 mill for him I'd seriously question the people in charge at City.

What the hell has Manglala done to be dropped so severely? It must have been really bad because he's a young guy, with all the natural physical abilities to make it in the prem. We spent 40 million on him. Why don't we invest a bit more time in coaching and developing him with the world class coaches we now have at City and give him another chance rather than wasting another 20+ million on a guy who is hardly much of an upgrade?

nimrod

Quote from: shandon on August 18, 2017, 15:00:13
I don't think pep is too worried about his job security. We have some promising young players but not at CB really.

If our young CB,s aren't promising why is the club employing them ?

shandon

Apart from Denayer I don't think their were any in the pre-season tour squad. There might be more younger players who I haven't heard about/or aren't ready for the 1st team.

gavin

Adarabioyo was on the tours but didn't seem to feature much.

Swiss

He's far too green around the ears (Tosin).
He needs lots of matches to get his match intelligence up

gavin

He's not going to get that sat on our bench

Swiss

Nope. Surprised he's not gone to girona

lee

Quote from: Hesperus on August 19, 2017, 09:24:40
WBA are trying to pull our pants down over the fee. Did you see Pulis' press conference? He was loving it, every player has his price, but It it has to be an amazing offer, blah, blah, blah. I really dislike that guy.

we have made that fucker depressed a few times mate :)


nimrod