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Sterling - So what's the point?
« on: April 05, 2018, 14:14:45 »
First off, I must state I like Sterling - so this isn't meant to be a hatchet job - but if Pep doesn't fancy him for these crunch, high pressure games, or Pep thinks he hasn't the mental fortitude to deal with some booing, then I think the question has to be asked - Why are we bothering with him at all? Maybe it's time to go and find a fast, right sided attacking player that Pep does fancy, and move Sterling on?

I'm still struggling as to why Pep chose not to start Sterling. I was disappointed when I saw the team sheet. We were clearly going to lack width and pace.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2018, 19:08:42 »
Pep weighs up the opposition and picks players to suit his tactical analysis. Last night he just got it badly wrong and quite frankly even if Sterling had played, it would not have mattered. We made the same mental collapse, as a team, as we did against them in the PL.

Pep's precision play just does not allow passion and all out attack and in part that's why we could not even mount a serious attack or muster a serious shot on goal during a second half that we dominated possession. It was more likely Liverpool would score against the run of play, than we would.

Sterling nonetheless must be disillusioned.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2018, 21:02:39 »
He made a mistake there. However, I tend to concur that it would likely have made little difference given how shite we were collectively.

I think he generally gives Raheem a lot of trust though. He did have good reason from history to believe that he might not perform at anfield.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2018, 21:19:48 »
With Aguero out he was the top scorer available to us and in good form, absolute madness to leave him out and doubly mad to put a central midfielder out there who seemingly had no idea of what positions to take up defensively. Throw in that Walker was having a mare and our shape was totally unbalanced compared to the Everton game. I wouldn't mind but most of the players have been shite on our last 3 visits to Anfield so I'm not sure why Sterling gets singled out.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2018, 23:32:01 »
Well I read somewhere that he thought Gundog would retain possession better than Sterling, but there's Bernardo as well, so why you would put a midfield player out wide I have no idea. Completely puzzling.

But to refer to the question, maybe Pep wants RS to move on so he can replace him, who knows.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2018, 15:16:30 »
I think our biggest problem was our own corners and the long high ball we insisted to play with.We should of played short corners and kept possession and and kept them pinned back.Edersons long hoof just kept coming back at us,time after time which was very predictable too,so easy to fix during the game but wasnt even looked at,very poor.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2018, 16:09:11 »
He has two years on his contract,http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/11309589/raheem-sterlings-manchester-city-deal-vital-for-pep-guardiola. I dont know if that is a factor. If Pep wants him gone, adéu.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2018, 12:19:32 »
I really hope he starts him today and Tuesday for that matter.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2018, 13:24:33 »
what about that roberts lad or has he been in scotland too long to be any use now?

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2018, 13:53:05 »
Paddy showed no ambition for his second loan spell by going back to Celtic. If the mindset isnt ambitious, the rest follows.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2018, 13:57:48 »
two south american lads out on loan in spain, think one is a winger

getting a bit shit all this snapping up players and then fucking them off, obviously the south americans are a work permit thing but i doubt we will see them

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2018, 17:24:30 »
Pep admitted that he got it wrong, fair play

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2018, 18:07:49 »
Sterling do a brilliant job today, to prove Pep right and us wrong.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2018, 18:28:44 »
Roberts is getting regular first team play, why would he come back here to maybe sit on the bench.....

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2018, 19:32:31 »
He got it wrong again in the space of four days ...

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2018, 02:11:25 »
Sterling do a brilliant job today, to prove Pep right and us wrong.

Fair player but still a big weakness in front of goal

(I suppose after todays game thats fucking obvious nimmers you -unt)

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2018, 08:27:30 »
He is very frustrating to watch at times. Sterling has had a great season in terms of goals but he has a real problem scoring when he's given time to think about it. The two chances he missed first half were shockers and ultimately cost us. If a quick reaction chance comes his way he generally puts it away. One on ones or when he's clean through he always seems to miss. This is surely a psychological thing, but it's something he needs to put right.    If Sterling and Pep can work on correcting this, then we'll have a player. If not, then long term he's probably going to be moved on.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2018, 08:51:12 »
His goals generally have been tap ins. Positionally he's improved massively, but that's pretty much where the huge improvements stop.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2018, 11:37:12 »
Sterling has improved massively this season under Pep, gets into great positions but a lot of easy chances are missed by him

Just bad Luck , nerves , dont know     

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2018, 23:15:01 »
He is very frustrating to watch at times. Sterling has had a great season in terms of goals but he has a real problem scoring when he's given time to think about it. The two chances he missed first half were shockers and ultimately cost us. If a quick reaction chance comes his way he generally puts it away. One on ones or when he's clean through he always seems to miss. This is surely a psychological thing, but it's something he needs to put right.    If Sterling and Pep can work on correcting this, then we'll have a player. If not, then long term he's probably going to be moved on.

Good post H

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2018, 11:08:55 »
. One on ones or when he's clean through he always seems to miss. This is surely a psychological thing, but it's something he needs to put right.    If Sterling and Pep can work on correcting this, then we'll have a player. If not, then long term he's probably going to be moved on.

some  players are just like that, the longer they have to  think the more chance of  fucking up. darren huckerby was the king of it. not sure its fixable like in the same way always seeming to be in the right place isnt teachable

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2018, 16:38:29 »
Positioning is teachable - we've seen that with Raheem this season.  Not panicking and spooning shots not so teachable.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2018, 20:34:52 »
not positioning, the instinct to know where the ball will drop


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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2018, 20:52:46 »
What's the difference? Asking for a friend...

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2018, 21:22:54 »
in your 40 years watching football youve never heard the term strikers instinct?

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half asleep and not that arsed so best way ill probably put it is

positioning = where manager wants/expects you to be
instinct = taking a chance, betting on a mistake from the defender etc etc

probably more the poacher type strikers that are pretty much extinct because of people like pep expecting players to be able to play. imagine pippo inzaghi in a pep team

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2018, 00:42:28 »
What's the difference? Asking for a friend...
You have a friend ?

 8)

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2018, 09:14:06 »
in your 40 years watching football youve never heard the term strikers instinct?

odd

half asleep and not that arsed so best way ill probably put it is

positioning = where manager wants/expects you to be
instinct = taking a chance, betting on a mistake from the defender etc etc

probably more the poacher type strikers that are pretty much extinct because of people like pep expecting players to be able to play. imagine pippo inzaghi in a pep team

Yeah, fair enough. In my mind they both overlap somewhat.

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Re: Sterling - So what's the point?
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2018, 09:14:49 »
You have a friend ?

 8)

Does my dog count?