Milner

[goat]

nah

[gavin]

Which bit doesn't come from the fans in the end?

[goat]

im not saying your list doesnt come from the fans, my point was a team wouldnt crumble without them completely

you saw the rough maths with the full stadium and season tickets, few bits of random meat in pastry wouldnt add that much more

[Zabba]

Most players are professional these days playing for money and if they can wins a few honours as well great, if not they do not give a shit.

Fans are not that important to them, Sky and the media are more important for obvious reasons.

[gavin]

I keep hearing the phrase 'fans pay the players' wages', but fans need to know gate receipts don't come anywhere near doing that.

So that is what the guy who nearly took Palace bankrupt says. Even if he had proven himself a decent Chairman who could run a club he is still only taking into account gate receipts. As I already pointed out fans are responsible for a good part of all the club's revenue streams not just gate receipts. More fans, more sponsorship, more kits sold, more pies sold, more tickets sold, better subs sales for Sky. If fans desert the game then it is fucked really. Where will the revenue come from if no-one wants to watch?

[goat]

then explain the lower league clubs that dont get on sky and have sub 5000 crowds and how they can still keep going

doubting they charge 40 quid a ticket either

and how well he did as chairman doesnt matter, unlike us he has seen the books and knows where its all coming from

[gavin]

What wages do they pay?

[goat]

at whatever level they will still have a load of staff other than the players to pay, stewards etc

cant imagine a steward at city will get much more than one at rochdale

[Neil Mcnab]

Milner gives 100%. It should be taken that all the players do, but of our present lot, a few cant be arsed with the running around lark. I am surprised we are not going all in too keep him, being home grown and all. Cant blame him for wanting to start most games somewhere else.

For the finance, the fans in the stadium contribute a hell of a lot more than money. Empty stadiums give no atmosphere and the big Sky deal would quickly become very small Sky deals. In technical terms, they are an integral part of the football product. 

[reddishblue]

No point in talking technical here. 

[Ludo]

There's not much point in big companies sponsoring football, or anything else for that matter, if they didn't think that the fans would spend money on their products.

[gavin]

Player of the Month and rightly so.

[bry the guy]

Well deserved and please sign a new contract.

[Swiss]

Barry was never box to box unless you call the area of the six yard box as being box to box.

Good player though. One of those who you missed more when he did not play.

Not for England or City, but for the last 2 seasons with Villa he was far more attacking then we ever saw him.