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KunDB

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« on: November 04, 2019, 21:31:56 »
  ARTICLE ON VAR 

Premier League clubs will discuss whether managers should be ­allowed to appeal a refereeing decision during a game in a potentially radical change to how the video ­assistant referees are used.

One chairman told Telegraph Sport that he would be in favour of each team being given up to three appeals over contentious ­incidents during a game. However, the Premier League will strongly argue against it – claiming it will lead to time-wasting and tactical appeals by managers to break up play and run down the clock.

I have argued for that managers should have a right to ask for a VAR review, two per game only, for all decisions that are not offside decisons, but offside should only be applied by VAR if it is 'clear and obvious' offside in my opinion.

I would also argue that the game should not stop while a VAR review is underway. Only stop the game if after  the VAR review the referee has been advised to review their decision.
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Re: VAR
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2019, 21:43:04 »
Bin it completely. It is the ruination of football. At weekend, I only half celebrated our second goal because of the fear of it being disallowed.

KunDB

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2019, 22:15:49 »
I have to say I am coming to that view as well, that binning it may be best for football. Except, I cannot help think it should be used for, 'clear and obvious' offsides. But no stopping play, that is the real curse brought about by officialdom.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2019, 19:50:12 »
I think VAR is designed for the entertainment of the television audience; not with the fans at the game in mind, or even whether referees' in-game decisions are right or wrong. It's all part of the spectacle as viewed from your sofa.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2019, 22:51:40 »
ITS CRAP

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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2019, 04:39:53 »
If VAR doesn't improve by the end of this season it should be scrapped completely   

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2019, 21:09:01 »
There's a lot of games becoming a circus these days. Do they want the entertainment of football or chaos?

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2019, 01:18:48 »
Some refs like seeing themselves on the telly rather than paying attention. VAR gives them even more of an excuse to fuck up.

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2019, 06:40:32 »
VAR is corrupt

popular teams are getting the decisions and City are not one of those popular teams

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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2019, 15:54:36 »
Palace goal ruled out against Scousers. Fucking typical.

KunDB

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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2019, 19:45:41 »
VAR is shit and as Gavin says ruining football. I now agree get shot of it.

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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2019, 20:25:07 »
Another last minute goal disallowed for us. Even the most level headed must be starting to question it.

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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2019, 21:20:44 »
They might as well have us start matches at 1-0 down and Liverpool start at 1-0 up. Liverpool get a two goal advantage when we meet. At least that makes the rules of VAR clear before we start.

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2019, 00:13:02 »
They need to scrap the "clear and obvious error". We need to get over panning a ref for making a wrong decision. If they've made a wrong decision, VAR corrects it, no one vilifies the ref.  We move on with our life.

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2019, 03:18:41 »
Var needs to be updated, and soon, to have any credubility

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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2019, 02:34:16 »
Big bucks, it had to happen. Farce

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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2019, 18:37:41 »
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/ifab-no-current-talks-to-change-offside-law/ar-BBYu6ky?ocid=spartandhp

Lawmakers believe VAR should not be "too forensic" over offside decisions - and should only be used to overturn 'clear and obvious' mistakes.

So who in the PL made the decision to turn VAR into forensic evidence to rule out perfectly good goals for mm decisions?

Mike Riley and his motley crew is my best bet.

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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2020, 12:53:54 »
I think VAR is designed for the entertainment of the television audience; not with the fans at the game in mind, or even whether referees' in-game decisions are right or wrong. It's all part of the spectacle as viewed from your sofa.
I had not really thought of this, but really rings true. It does not look like it is going away. If something is "clear and obvious" why does it take so long to make a decision. 

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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2020, 13:09:15 »
Villa just had one dissalowrd for offside. Showed the replay with the lines and it was no clearer, so I've no idea what else they are going off.

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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2020, 19:13:29 »
I had not really thought of this, but really rings true. It does not look like it is going away. If something is "clear and obvious" why does it take so long to make a decision.

Coming soon to a screen near you - ad breaks during VAR reviews...

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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2020, 21:26:57 »
I wouldn't put it past Sky. This is a VAR review sponsored by Specsavers. The ref, the linesmen and  the clueless VAR cnut should all have gone.

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2020, 22:29:13 »
They just need to let the ref watch the replay if its contentious.

And

They need to sort out the offside mm ruling.  Reckon something like, attacking player ahead by more than 6 inches.

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Mic up the ref and let stadium and audience know why the decision is made.

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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2020, 12:46:28 »

They need to sort out the offside mm ruling.  Reckon something like, attacking player ahead by more than 6 inches.


I don’t think this helps - the argument just becomes “ahead by 6.00001 inches” or “ahead by 5.99999 inches”. The problem is that they are claiming a spurious level of accuracy for the equipment they use to try to resolve the problem they want to address. Just moving the line is never going to be a solution.

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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2020, 13:10:36 »
I don’t think this helps - the argument just becomes “ahead by 6.00001 inches” or “ahead by 5.99999 inches”. The problem is that they are claiming a spurious level of accuracy for the equipment they use to try to resolve the problem they want to address. Just moving the line is never going to be a solution.

Exactly, what should happen is they should look briefly to see if there is any clear and obvious offside and forget all this drawing of lines crap. Managers should have say one or at worse two appeals per game were the on field referee can look at the replay monitor real time on the side line with no slow-mo shit involved and confirm or reverse their decision.

Nothing will be perfect but clear cut errors are what need addressed and only clear and obvious errors.

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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2020, 15:02:02 »
not good for the fans in the stadium , not knowing to celebrate or not