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Summer transfers challenge
« on: July 19, 2020, 14:41:14 »
Summer transfers

So, reportedly we've got a warchest of ~£150m to spend. But we need to replace many players! I'm going to assume this is in addition to whatever money we can raise for player sales.

I'm using the values form transfermarkt.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/schnellsuche/ergebnis/schnellsuche?query=ferran+torres+

Done deals.
Sane. Sold for £44m (initial fee).
Yan couto. RB. (18) bought for £6m
Angelina maybe kept, but has a £25m buy-on clause to leipzig.
Bravo is leaving on a free.

Sell
1 x CB, John Stones (£32m)
1 x CB, Nicole Otamensi (£13m)
1 x LB, Alex Zinchenko (£21m)
1 x RB, Cancelo (£32m)
1 x AMid, Leroy Sane (£44m)
1 x LB, Angelino (£25m)

Total £167m

Buy
1 x GK
1 x cb K. Koulibaly (£56m)
1 x cb Pau Torres (£30m)
1 x lb D. Alaba (£65m)
1 x rb Yan Couto (£6m)
1 x am Ferran Torres (£45m)
1 x fwd. L. Martinez (£58m)

Total £246m

Net spend +£79m.

Squad.

GK
Ederson
Zack Steffen
D. Grimshaw
A. Muric

RB.
K. Walker
Yan Couto

CB
A. Laporte
K. Koulibaly
P. Torres
E. Garcia

LB.
D. Alaba
B. Mends

Def/pivot Mid
Fernandinho
Rodrigo
I. Gundogan
Claudio Gomes

CM
K. De Brunye
P. Foden
B. Silva

WF
R. Sterling
R. Mahrez
F. Torres

FWD
S. Aguero
G. Jesus
L. Martinez



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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2020, 16:34:48 »
In this environment, Covid-19, I think we have difficulty selling players and certainly at the shown prices.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2020, 16:53:36 »
wonder would Pep agree if you should him that

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2020, 17:04:58 »
In this environment, Covid-19, I think we have difficulty selling players and certainly at the shown prices.

I've only used transfermarkt prices just to standardise values, otherwise it just based on what I think.

I'm not sure Covid-19 will affect that much... having said that, it may be a buyers market if clubs are struggling for cash due to loss of earnings. But then, those clubs must be running close to the wire... FFP?

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2020, 17:17:21 »
wonder would Pep agree if you should him that

Maybe agree... but then what are the realities of bringing them in?

Kalibaly: Ian Wright reckons its a done deal, so probably won't happen. Hes 29 so got a good 3 to 4 seasons left.
Alaba I doubt as we've reportedly failed for a swap deal involving Sane. Similar age to Koulibaly, but attacking wingbacks don't tend to fair as well in age, so I can see us getting someone younger.
Pau Torres. Maybe, but then there are other young options too.
Yan Cuoto is a done deal. Brazilian, only 18. Peps reportedly told him he wants to look at him in pre-season with a view to keeping him for the first team. Young, new country, who knows! But could explain why he's tried to play Garcia  at RB.
Ferran Torres; reports we've agreed personal terms but not met the valuation of the club.
L. Martinez. Reports are he prefers Barcelona.

I do feel like our forward options should be scoring more with the amount of opportunities we create.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2020, 06:55:37 »
Valencia Torres contract ends 2021, so he will be moving on. Alaba, same.
Koulibaly, very expensive, no spring chicken, never played in our league, no sell on value - sounds ideal. Have read he is a great player though.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2020, 00:22:56 »
I'd be happy with Ake, at 25 meets the clubs ethos of buying players around the age of 26.

A strong presence, good in the air and likes a tackle.
Dutch so should be a decent passer.

£35 mil could be a steal...

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2020, 08:10:54 »
I think he’d be an upgrade on Stones and Ota, but not exactly the colossus we needed at CB I was hoping for.  But underwhelming tbh.

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2020, 08:19:27 »
Ake is a scrapper.I quite like that and he's good with the ball at his feet and looks comfortable unlike Stones who looks like he's about to trip up.
I was hoping for a better upgrade though for Stones and Nico.Still i hope we get more than one in and snag the Naples lad just for a few seasons which will help with the development of Garcia and Ake(if that happens) and gives us a better chance to get back our crown next season.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2020, 08:21:37 by lee »

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2020, 10:35:50 »
Ake can also play as a left back.

So I am guessing that anther Centre Back (Kalidou Koulibaly I am hoping) may well come in as well, we certainly need more competition for our defensive slots.

Laporte, Ake, Koulibaly and Garcia would provide decent CB competition.


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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2020, 22:28:47 »
I would keep Cancelo, played well tonight, and i would keep Zinchenko, far superior to Mendy, the rest of the team good, even Stones. Otemdi to old, Fernadino and Silva past their sell by date. Walker, forgetful at times but still fast...
« Last Edit: July 24, 2020, 11:17:19 by Paddy »

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2020, 23:50:09 »
On tonight's showing, Cancelo has to stay, but that depends on him being consistent.

I'm not convinced by Zinchenko yet. For an academy product who played attacking mid, I feel he can do a lot better with attacking contributions.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2020, 19:18:22 »
get this thread moving again..

So we have made 2 signings..A defender and a winger..

Who next and who is out?

I would like to see a few more faces..Another CB and a striker seeing as Sergio is unfit for most of season and Jesus is hit and miss.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2020, 20:12:14 »
CB, LB and a Striker please.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2020, 21:18:32 »
CB, LB and a Striker please.

Exactly what we need and we need the best of the best available in these positions. Despite his game against Barcelona Koulibaly would be a good first of the three. Martinez would be nice too.

Stones, Otamendi, Zinchenko ( :( ) Angelino & Garcia all gone I reckon.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2020, 10:34:33 by silvablue »

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2020, 02:08:30 »
You can put me in the "CB, LB and a Striker" club as well.

Real quality needed.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2020, 20:38:51 »
I hope we don't sign that Diego Carlos from Sevilla. Always seems to be involved in giving away a penalty

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2020, 22:26:24 »
watched most of the Sevilla v Inter Milan  ;D match tonight. Thought Matinez was largely unnoticeable, but then so was the majority of inter. Except Lukaku who made the headlines for all the wrong reasons

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2020, 23:44:11 »
Joao Felix would be a great signing. 

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2020, 09:13:32 »
watched most of the Sevilla v Inter Milan  ;D match tonight. Thought Matinez was largely unnoticeable, but then so was the majority of inter. Except Lukaku who made the headlines for all the wrong reasons

I’ve been trying to watch a bit of Martinez since we’ve been linked with him. Really not sure, looks ok, but not a patch on Aguero, and not worth the money banded out, looks very similar to Jesus, only not quite as good!  We could really do with a different type of striker to give us some variety up front, someone bigger, more physical with real pace. Although for sure there this a derth of that type of striker around at the moment.

I still can’t understand why our academy, given all the investment over the years, hasn’t tried to target home grown strikers of this ilk. Even if they don’t make the grade in our first team, they make the most money for resale.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2020, 10:56:50 »
I know he's only 20, but if he's a main striker, 35 matches and 9 goals isn't the best return.

Is he more attacking mid than striker?

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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2020, 11:54:28 »
Kane wont win feck all with Spurs..Surely he knows that.I would have him at City as a different option.I honestly cant see Kun staying fit for a season and Jesus for all his graft and running is not lethal enough.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2020, 12:43:35 »
I’m coming around to Kane but it’ll never happen with Levy at Spuds.

You’re totally right about Aguero and Jesus.

I don’t think Aguero has ever had a full season since he’s signed? If he ever had a full season with us he’d have won the golden boot for sure.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2020, 16:04:23 »
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-diego-rosa-wiki-18837553

Diego Rosa has signed for City.

Read the article to find out about him.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2020, 01:58:19 »
No disrespect Swiss, but where do you find the time to dig up all these stats ?...

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2020, 17:06:53 »
On the throne mostly.

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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2020, 19:22:53 »
On the throne mostly.

Very good productivity Swiss.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2020, 10:47:09 »
No disrespect Swiss, but where do you find the time to dig up all these stats ?...

He just feeds it into his flux capacitor  :D

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2020, 09:51:40 »
Only a couple of weeks to the start of the season. Two good squad players signed, not many outgoings and still some priority positions not strengthened. Come on Tixi, get some deals done!

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2020, 00:43:01 »
Harder to sell underperforming players.

I can't blame stones and other for not wanting to go to a club not in Europe comps

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2020, 09:45:24 »
Erling Harland. Some striker this lad is, id blow all our Messi budget on this player. Pace, power, physicality and a great finisher.

It would be a gamble given his age and cost but sometimes you have to go all in.

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« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2020, 11:55:36 »
Erling Harland. Some striker this lad is, id blow all our Messi budget on this player. Pace, power, physicality and a great finisher.

It would be a gamble given his age and cost but sometimes you have to go all in.

Totally agree , the lad looks decent in front of goal

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2020, 21:23:03 »
All seems to have gone a bit quiet for the moment. Defensive reinforcements still urgently required too!

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2020, 01:33:42 »
Yep, too quiet.

Be nice to get something done and move some out.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2020, 09:06:09 »
I like Ake and Torres but Ake on his own isn’t going to be able to shore up our defence to the standard needed to compete in the CL and possibly even the PL.

How we’ve not been able to source a LB over the last 4 or 5 seasons has been a major failure in our transfer business.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2020, 23:00:06 »
I'm surprised were not in for Reguilon, 30m doesn't sound expensive in this market.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2020, 02:04:43 »
apparently bale and that lad off to spurs

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« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2020, 10:20:23 »
Apparently Real are insisting on a buy back clause for Reguilon. Looks like that is putting potential suitors off. He’d be idea though.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2020, 07:46:40 »
Gone a bit quiet.Wonder if Pep is happy with his lot?

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2020, 11:11:56 »
Some kid joined from Barcelona

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2020, 15:32:39 »
We've signed 3 youngsters this season.

Pablo Moreno- Striker from Juve, age 18.  Cost 9m. Loaned out to Girona

Yan Couto - RB from Courtiba (Brazil). Age 18. Cost 5.4m. Loaned out to Girona

Issa Kaboure - RB from kV mechelen(Belgium), age 19. Cost 4.04m. Loaned back to KV mechelen.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2020, 20:21:55 »
We have sold Sane, no market for the rest of the duffers. Have some well paid bench warmers this season.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2020, 20:28:56 »
Joules Kounde, £50 million rumour doing the rounds.

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2020, 21:28:35 »
Jules Kounde. 21, 5’11, French Center back. Supposed to be very good, but I’d worry about his age and height.

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« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2020, 21:34:08 »
We've signed 3 youngsters this season.

Pablo Moreno- Striker from Juve, age 18.  Cost 9m. Loaned out to Girona

Yan Couto - RB from Courtiba (Brazil). Age 18. Cost 5.4m. Loaned out to Girona

Issa Kaboure - RB from kV mechelen(Belgium), age 19. Cost 4.04m. Loaned back to KV mechelen.

more than that you stat monkey
juan larios and some other kid
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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2020, 23:07:40 »
Was that to us, or another club in the city football group?

Not recorded on the official prem league transfer site or on transfermarkt

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2020, 10:04:05 »
In that article there's a list at the bottom.

Mikki van Sas (16), full-backs Yan Couto (18) and Kluiverth Aguilar (18), midfielders Romeo Lavia (16) and Josh Adam (16), plus forwards Liam Smith (17) and Pablo Moreno (18).

Interesting that they've missed Issa Kaboure

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2020, 12:17:38 »
I don't think the one I forgot is any of them

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2020, 13:02:11 »
Felix Coriera?

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Re: Summer transfers challenge
« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2020, 15:06:27 »
Koulibali played for Napoli today