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Who's going?
« on: May 26, 2022, 19:37:48 »
Any from Sterling, Mahrez, Gundog, Zinchenko and Bernardo are all going to be in the news as potentially going. Sterling, Mahrez and Gundog all entering the last year of contract. Zinchenko might want to be a starter somewhere and Bernardo wanted to go last season. Would Ake go if Newcastle came in for him? Could be busy.

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2022, 20:03:24 »
Tough one to call but Mahrez can go for me..Keep Berny and a tough one on Raheem.He delivered the goods the last game.

I would like to see a new number 2 goalkeeper personally.

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2022, 20:53:46 »
Steffen is a good lad. We won't find a better number 2. Everyone makes a fuck up every now and then. He'll learn from it.

All the players we have are very good so it'll be sad to see any of them leave. Raheem has been quite poor of late but showed his worth when coming on at the weekend. Bernard has been immense all season. That good that he has kept Gundo out of the team a lot and Gundo displayed that he is a crucial player again in the final game too. Mahrez has had a good season and will stay. Zinny is part of the club now and I'd be surprised if he left in the next few years. He always does a job every season but was amazing against Villa. He went past players at will.

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2022, 22:56:37 »
For me Steffen is the best number 2 we could get. It is not easy sitting on the bench and then having to be in tip top shape when called to perform.

Raheem such a disappointment because he just cannot pull the trigger when needed and useless in a one to one with goalies, not to mention penalties. A good transfer fee and I believe he will be away. I get the feeling he wants to go.

Mahrez wavers between his brillance, unbelievable first touch, and at times is world class. But a bit of a one trick pony cutting in on his left foot to shoot and top right corner for penalties. I still like him amd believe he should and will stay.

Gundogan should stay what a player, what a leader, what a team influencer. Only negative is his age but a good few years left yet.

Jesus is a brilliant worker and I love him as a player but he is no striker but I hope he stays.

Zinchenko is playing out of position and has been in and out but brilliant when needed last Sunday. Love him as a player but i suspect he needs to go and will go for more playing time.

Bernardo, does anyone sane really want him to go, what a worker, what a player. Brilliant if he stays but i fear he wont. Our loss sadly.

The great managers let their players go when their is still good value in them, just before their performances start to deteriorate. A good turnover keeps all players on their toes.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2022, 08:50:11 »
Forgot about Jesus, all career as a bit part player? Desperate for Bernardo to stay, great player with a similar attitude. Sterling and Mahrez, both can go. Mahrez is a successful one trick pony. Sterling, we need pace, but not consistent enough, get a shave.

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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2022, 20:17:01 »
A difficult question

Sterling for me

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2022, 21:39:04 »
We can throw Ake into the mix. I can see a significant turnover this summer transfer window.

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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2022, 22:21:45 »
People are always very good at chucking players away but not very good at suggesting better that we could get for less than we get for the player that leaves. Also, we need a squad not just a first XI and we already have quite a sparse squad. Ake has filled holes for us on a number of occasions this season and never complains. He could well develop into more. Maybe he is one who could go but it would just create another hole to fill.

We can probably spare a forward player with the two strikers that we have bought. I don't think we have spare players elsewhere in the squad until we buy.

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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2022, 22:24:27 »
Definitely keep Ake. He's been steady since joining but this year has played really well. He's a good defender but he does unfortunately have three very very good defenders infront of him, but if he's happy to be a bit part/cup player then he needs to stay.

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2022, 23:03:44 »
It looks like zinchenkho is off to Newcastle Utd

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2022, 01:45:38 »
I’m not saying anyone should go but some players are likely to want away for more first team playing time

 Probably Sterling, Jesus, Zinchenko & Ake fall into that bracket but only the players and City’s management knows. Maybe Bernardo.

Remember Peps philosophy is if they want away and we get a fair fee they can go. Which is a god policy imho.

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2022, 05:54:38 »
Keep Ake and Zinnny.Both tick all the boxes.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2022, 08:52:54 »
As it stands, Sterling and Mahrez can go. We can upgrade.

Bernie Silva should stay. One of the best players in the midfield area. Nobody could afford him, if he wants to stay. Why wouldn't he?

Zinchenko won't want to go.

We need a left back and someone to keep Rodri on his toes and allow him a rest now and again.

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2022, 21:04:26 »
Who are we going to get to upgrade on Mahrez and Sterling? I reckon one forward can go but I'd keep the others. I don't think that we need to mess about there. Though I can understand frustrations at time with Mahrez and Sterling, they are class players who have delivered year after year.

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2022, 21:45:30 »
Zinchenko has suddenly started going past defenders at will. He seems like a different player. We could be making a big mistake if we let him go.

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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2022, 21:50:25 »
Zinchenko was great against Villa and was MOM tonight playing for Ukraine against the jocks.He has skills hitherto unseen !

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2022, 04:37:27 »
Zinchenko is a midfielder not a wing back by trade. It’s hardly surprising he has taken time to adjust, particularly given his limited playing time.

That said never equate International Football to League football. Many shine in the international matches that flip in league football.

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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2022, 08:44:43 »
He did it to create the equaliser against Villa from left back and a couple of other times in the match too. All of a sudden, he glides past defenders like Messi.

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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2022, 10:42:32 »
Who are we going to get to upgrade on Mahrez and Sterling? I reckon one forward can go but I'd keep the others. I don't think that we need to mess about there. Though I can understand frustrations at time with Mahrez and Sterling, they are class players who have delivered year after year.

Agree on only letting one of them go, don't want our apples falling off the top.

There are too many players to mention who are upgrades on both. I'd really have liked the boy Liverpool got, Diaz. Now that Sterling doesn't play as much, I'd say Bowen would be worth a punt in his squad role.

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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2022, 10:24:08 »
Better to get something for players coming into the last year of their contract, than let them go for nothing. Their heads are bound to be filled with contract talks or pastures anew.

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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2022, 08:23:14 »
Zinchenko has suddenly started going past defenders at will. He seems like a different player. We could be making a big mistake if we let him go.

Had a fantastic few games lately
Would be well to hang onto

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2022, 10:57:10 »
Jesus is strongly linked with Arsenal, another with a year left on his contract. Teaming back up with Arteta, Arsenals strikers have already left or going, so makes sense.

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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2022, 21:31:47 »
It makes sense for Arsenal but all of these players need to consider that any step to another club in England is a step down and it will be difficult for them to win trophies against City.

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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2022, 09:13:04 »
More game time for Jesus at Arsenal

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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2022, 17:22:59 »
More game time but in a side that is unlikely to compete for the title and isn't in the Champions League. I'd well understand it if he wants to play more but it is a trade off. There's very few players who are guaranteed a start in a team like City,

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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2022, 06:06:34 »
With his contract running down and Haaland and Alvarez incoming Jesus might just conclude his game time at City will be negligible. Players want to play. I’m convinced he will be gone, a shame because he is such a good hard working player but Pep likes to manage squad size and rotation.
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« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2022, 21:52:13 »
Bernard absolutely has to stay. Pep says Barcelona will find it difficult to sign him thankfully.

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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2022, 21:15:50 »
Fernandinho and Jayden Braaf are among five players to be officially released. 5 Premier League titles for Fernandinho. What a haul that is. Awesome. He has been such a crucial player over the years in the quiet but important position of defensive midfield. But we must not forget how many times he has filled in elsewhere for us too.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-released-retained-transfer-24182090

Man City released list:

Fernandinho

Mohammed Aminu

Jayden Braaf

Rowan McDonald

Kwaku Oduroh
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2022, 13:16:38 »
Hope theres no Chelsea type mistakes going, like the next KDB or Salah.

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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2022, 21:13:11 »
There's bound to be one eventually. Who knows even Sancho might find himself at a decent club yet.

Seriously, it is a difficult balance between giving players a chance at the right time and just playing youth for the sake of it. They really have to justify their place with performances. Players develop and it is very hard to keep late developers happy whilst they develop. There's going to be limits on loans which will make it even harder.

Regardless, losing both KDB and Salah is a bit careless and must be galling.

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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2022, 20:43:24 »
Raheem to Chelski for £60 million is the big story today. He's given us great service and to make a profit too would seem like a good deal. Personally, I'd miss him. He's much maligned by some but he showed that he still plays a key part in the final game of the season.

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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2022, 14:44:31 »
Bernardos move to Barca is a step nearer. A massive loss if he does go, but he wants to go.

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« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2022, 20:57:48 »
It would be a very big loss but I'm still hoping that he will see sense or that Barca simply can't afford him. He was one of our best players last season and would be very difficult to replace. There's not many in the world with his energy and even fewer who can ally it with such skill.

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« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2022, 22:40:48 »
He's definitely worth £100 mil plus but if players want to leave then city don't seem to be the type to hold out for big money as other teams do.

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« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2022, 07:59:59 »
He's definitely worth £100 mil plus but if players want to leave then city don't seem to be the type to hold out for big money as other teams do.

I can see the sense in letting players leave if that’s what they want, but if they’re still in contract and we’re selling to a direct (Premier League) rival, I’d hope we wouldn’t be selling cheap. Like, I really don’t want to see City play a Chelsea team next season including Sterling, Ake, and Zinchenko and them thinking they got them cheap.

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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2022, 09:00:26 »
He's definitely worth £100 mil plus but if players want to leave then city don't seem to be the type to hold out for big money as other teams do.

If they want £60 odd for the dutch boy going to United, they cannot expect to pay less than £100 for Bernie. We should absolutely be holding out for market value. There may have been more to it, a significant human/personal aspect, but I feel they took the cnut with Torres.

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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2022, 17:21:45 »
Maybe a swap could be on the cards.

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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2022, 23:05:31 »
Gabby is gone and that makes me sad. However, he was replaced 6 months ago also potentially Sterling.

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« Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 15:19:30 »
That goal at Southampton on the last day will always be a classic memory. Also plenty for Raheem..

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/manchester-city/12493446/sterlings-greatest-goals