City at Hammers Thread

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 16:31:30

Team news

Hart, Sagna, Otamendi, Demichelis, Clichy, Toure, Delph, Silva, De Bruyne, Navas, Aguero

Subs Caballero, Angelino, Zabaleta, Fernandinho, Fernando, Sterling, Iheanacho

C'mon City lets win well on a day Leicester have once again shown no sign of faltering.

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 16:33:14

Thought Fernandinho might start and Kelechi.

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 16:39:05

Hope Delph's got an oxygen tank with him, he's going to f*cking need one.

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 17:16:03

Quote from: Ludo on January 23, 2016, 16:33:14
Hope Delph's got an oxygen tank with him, he's going to f*cking need one.

Ludo, he will probably play 60 minutes, then bring Fernandinho on; no need to sub Yaya as he will be barely warmed up after only an hour on the field watching the game.

gavin · January 23, 2016, 17:29:44

Gonna be an interesting game, hope yaya does the business. C'mon City.

gavin · January 23, 2016, 17:30:27

Jesus wept.

Neil Mcnab · January 23, 2016, 17:31:21

Assist for Toure there.

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 17:33:47

In fairness to Toure he was too tired to tackle after 50 seconds of effort.

Tricky Trev · January 23, 2016, 17:35:48

Great start, keep it up city!!!

gavin · January 23, 2016, 17:38:14

Start again now. No fucking about.

Tricky Trev · January 23, 2016, 17:41:14

No city nooo what are you doing?

Swiss · January 23, 2016, 17:41:21

Well... It's a strange game already!

Neil Mcnab · January 23, 2016, 17:41:33

The best striker in the league pulls us out of the sh*t.

Neil Mcnab · January 23, 2016, 18:19:27

Hart and Kun our best players first half. The rest need to join in second half.

gavin · January 23, 2016, 18:21:24

What a save that was by Joe Hart from the free kick. A decent, competitive half of football. City need to make their extra class tell in the second half and take control.

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 18:23:46

We're too top heavy. One of De Bruyne, Navas, Silva or YAYA has to go.

Leewonpen · January 23, 2016, 18:24:39

Quote from: Ludo on January 23, 2016, 18:23:46
We're too top heavy. One of De Bruyne, Navas, Silva or YAYA has to go.

De Bruyne or Silva off for Fernandinho for me....

Swiss · January 23, 2016, 18:45:14

Yaya off for me, he's causing too many problems defensively and hasn't done enough to be on the pitch.

Today's football hasn't been great

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 18:50:50

If we play from now to next Christmas we won't look like scoring.

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 18:52:05

Pelle snoozing on bench as usual.

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 18:55:02

a substitution that changes nothing.

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 18:56:13

Oh he has woke up Navas off Sterling. Big deal!

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 19:01:01

What is the point of hoofing the ball route one to Aguero.

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 19:02:25

Finally Kelechi, at least that ties up defenders so West Ham cannot man mark Sergio so tight.

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 19:03:55

So no midfield at all now??

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 19:04:32

As said earlier Delph off Yaya stays on arrrggggghhhh

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 19:09:35

Exactly as I called it Kelechi freeing up Sergio to score

Neil Mcnab · January 23, 2016, 19:10:02

Kun gets us out of jail again. But Toure stays on and Delph goes off???

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 19:12:16

Fernando.

We're fucked

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 19:22:05

Again 2 points lost because of our average managers poor tactics. So nearly a defeat.

Neil Mcnab · January 23, 2016, 19:24:13

Where are our leaders, Kun leads by example, theres the stare as well. Theres not a lot else. Liittle talking or any verbal communication between our players. No problem when its going well. Need someone vocal to gee players up and give a bollocking when its not.

lee · January 23, 2016, 19:26:20

i'll take a point..west ham are no mugs

Tricky Trev · January 23, 2016, 19:27:28

Quote from: Zabba on January 23, 2016, 19:22:05
Again 2 points lost because of our average managers poor tactics. So nearly a defeat.

My thoughts exactly. This needed to be three points, it's getting too far in the season and city needs to start grinding out results. But it seems city never gets going, sometimes running but falling over again and again and failing to mount any serious and consistent threat.

As exciting as a second or third place should be, this season is a fucking snore fest.

gavin · January 23, 2016, 19:27:55

It is just not good enough. We didn't deserve anything more than we got. We're not capable of getting a run together under this manager. Mind you, there is a lot of players that need to look at themselves too. Yaya deserves his criticism today but so does Silva who was poor indeed. In fact there's a long list but, unfortunately, Otamendi was particularly notable again. That was disgraceful for their second.

bluebrendan · January 23, 2016, 19:30:30

Two desperately poor goals to concede, Toure initially at fault for the first but what was Otamendi doing going walkabout, Delph had to cover his position and so nobody was on Valencia. The second goal is just schoolboy stuff, Otamendi has one man to look after and loses him.

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 19:32:55

Quote from: gavin on January 23, 2016, 19:27:55
It is just not good enough. We didn't deserve anything more than we got. We're not capable of getting a run together under this manager. Mind you, there is a lot of players that need to look at themselves too. Yaya deserves his criticism today but so does Silva who was poor indeed. In fact there's a long list but, unfortunately, Otamendi was particularly notable again. That was disgraceful for their second.

Spot on

I would add our defence is STILL not fixed despite having spent a fortune, mainly because the team balance is all wrong. As shown time after time away from the Eitihad.

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 19:36:31

More often than not we are second best for loose balls, I have noticed that over our last few games.

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 20:02:14

West Ham's midfield were big, strong, pacey and numerous.

Ours was Delph.

gavin · January 23, 2016, 20:44:19

Quote from: lee on January 23, 2016, 19:26:20
i'll take a point..west ham are no mugs

You have a point that the Hammers are a decent side but really we shouldn't be giving away one goal like we did today never mind two! We are our own worst enemies.

Swiss · January 23, 2016, 20:45:35

Quote from: bluebrendan on January 23, 2016, 19:30:30
Two desperately poor goals to concede, Toure initially at fault for the first but what was Otamendi doing going walkabout, Delph had to cover his position and so nobody was on Valencia. The second goal is just schoolboy stuff, Otamendi has one man to look after and loses him.

Valencia was being marked by Delph, Delph chose to leave his man to cover the near post, deflects of his bum an into the unmarked Valencia.
If Delph had stayed with his man, then no deflection and Ota clears.
If Toure hadn't been so weak and let his man get by easy, different passage of play entirely.

Yes, Ota too slow on the first goal.

Silva hasn't played well since coming back from Injury

Sterling looked ring rusty

No one played particularly well (Kun aside).

We should of stuck with Delph and Fernando in the centre.

reddishblue · January 23, 2016, 20:57:41

Yaya's brain is now slower than his legs. Hart's distribution has always been shit, he should have gone to Specsavers instead of the hairdressers.

Ludo · January 23, 2016, 21:08:16

We certainly are our own worst enemy.

Technically both the players and manager lack the fundamental sense to realise that the formation we play (especially away from home) doesn't allow enough cover in defence. Once Yaya goes forward it's a struggle to get back, for the most part he's blowing out of his arse after 20 mins, and when the full backs are charging forward it leaves the two centre halves and any defensive midfield we have exposed. Couple that with the fact we play like total strangers at times it's not a good mix.

A little more pragmatism and a little less buckling our swash.

bluebrendan · January 23, 2016, 21:09:14

Quote from: Swiss on January 23, 2016, 20:45:35
Valencia was being marked by Delph, Delph chose to leave his man to cover the near post, deflects of his bum an into the unmarked Valencia.
If Delph had stayed with his man, then no deflection and Ota clears.
If Toure hadn't been so weak and let his man get by easy, different passage of play entirely.

Yes, Ota too slow on the first goal.

Silva hasn't played well since coming back from Injury

Sterling looked ring rusty

No one played particularly well (Kun aside).

We should of stuck with Delph and Fernando in the centre.

Have another look, Otamendi couldn't have cleared it because he's still getting back from wandering 10 yards up the park, he's between Yaya and Delph and a yard or two behind when the cross comes in. I can't blame Delph for going to cover the near post where Otamendi should have been.

jingoe · January 23, 2016, 22:07:53

Why did Kun look so pissed off after he'd scored the second?

I assumed it must have been disallowed for a few seconds

KunDB · January 23, 2016, 22:52:30

Quote from: jingoe on January 23, 2016, 22:07:53
Why did Kun look so pissed off after he'd scored the second?

I assumed it must have been disallowed for a few seconds

He was pushed into the back of the net when he went to get the ball to restart quickly.

nimrod · January 24, 2016, 00:59:22

Its all too obvious , we are let down time & time again by the same players

Otamendi demechelis mangala and yaya ...........you cant win a title with these players..........or a manager who plays two offensive mids (one of them who couldnt give a fuck) away from home against a strong West Ham midfield, offering no protection to a shite defence.

whoever thought it was a good idea to pay all that dosh for ota & mango wants shooting with a ball of their own shit

Hopefully next season it will all be sorted out, Pep will get rid of the dross that is losing us the title, this title that should be a stroll in the park

Swiss · January 24, 2016, 01:05:13

Quote from: bluebrendan on January 23, 2016, 21:09:14
Have another look, Otamendi couldn't have cleared it because he's still getting back from wandering 10 yards up the park, he's between Yaya and Delph and a yard or two behind when the cross comes in. I can't blame Delph for going to cover the near post where Otamendi should have been.

Sorry, yep, Demi would have been free to clear it.
It looks as though Ota has tried to anticipate the pass to Valencia , then gets out of position.
3 key errors by Yaya, Delph and Ota for their first.

Rowley Birkin QC · January 24, 2016, 07:02:18

Otamendi had a stinker.

But few came out of this with much credit, and there's little to say here that hasn't been said before. One look at Pellegrini's team selection clearly heralded that someone (most likely Delph - as Ludo suggested pre-kick-off) was going to be in for a tough day at the office, covering the ground Yaya won't (or can't). Surely every man and his dog can now see that including Yaya in the same side as Silva - plus TWO wide players - is a luxury we can seldom afford, especially away from home against the better sides like West Ham. One of Navas or De Bruyne should have been assigned to the bench to make way for the extra midfielder (one of the two F's) in beside Yaya and Delph.

Neil Mcnab · January 24, 2016, 12:29:13

To me Yaya is a luxury we can no longer afford at all. He has never been keen on the defensive part of a midfielders role, now he also has a very apparent physical decline. This is a poor combination. If he continues to be a starter, it will be a minus where we cant afford one. Yesterday, he was among many not putting in a good performance. It seems nailed on Pelle is gone at the end of the season, a dead man walking manager is a drag on performance as well.

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