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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2020, 07:34:25 »
it's simple. It's all about indebted clubs desperately trying to keep themselves relevant. Well, I say for one, fuck em.

Amazing insight. Those clubs being the ones the PL deprived of revenue by rigging the distribution of monies and tried to shaft City’s takeover and development. I say fuck the dirty treacherous plotters of Utd, Liverpool and UEFA as they will eventually plot together to destroy City.

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2020, 10:46:49 »
I would love to hear the justification for the proposals, that,

  • 9 Clubs only should have the sole voting rights to determine the future of 72 clubs in the EFL and 11 PL clubs, and
  • why 9 clubs should have a veto over other clubs ownership.

Also, the fact that Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs were offered to join the EFL while maintaining their UEFA CL/Europa League places smacks of UEFA having been briefed and brought on board, before these 4 PL clubs were belatedly briefed, by Liverpool & Utd. This has been plotted over a few years secretively behind all other clubs backs and I suspect had to wait for Utd to get back into the CL before launching it.

It would conveniently fit in with the UEFA European league plans that they have been exposed to be hatching and I suspect entry to that will be dependent upon past performance in the competitions e.g. 1000 points for each time a club has won it and 100 points for each time a club has competed in the final group stages and 10 points for each time a club qualified for the preliminary stages or in other words RIGGED for Utd and Liverpool benefit.

City need to steer well clear of this or ensure a VETO which prevents changes that City consider to be detrimental to the clubs interest. Bear in mind these are the very clubs who a few months back tried to shaft City at CAS.



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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2020, 10:56:02 »
Another emerging clause

Tottenham Hotspur will be able to claim back around £125m for the costs of their new stadium and Liverpool around £30m on their newly-built Main stand under a clause in the "Project Big Picture" proposals.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/project-big-picture-tottenham-stadium-22832882

Also, The Times reports the EFL rejected a £375m offer from an American investment firm for a 20 per cent stake in the league that would have helped to solve the clubs' cash crisis
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The Blue Blooded Maniac

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2020, 10:58:05 »
What the fuck? And Where's that money coming from?

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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2020, 12:17:08 »
The concept of cancelling the League Cup (Carabao) and only 18 teams to play less is bollocks.

As a consequence of this proposal the PL will start the season later, I wonder why? 

Could it be to accommodate FIFA’s new Club World Cup and also to ensure clubs can still go on their lucrative summer tours of Asia and America.

So instead of playing less players will actually be playing more.

The Holy Grail for FSG, the Glazers and Stan Kroenke is to have their own rights to matches, and you pay for every game. Thus the untimely experiment launched last week £14.95 per game.

As Simon Jordan said "This empowers the big 6 and enables them to steer towards where they're really going which is to have a better relationship with Juventus, Bayern Munich and Barcelona and the European Club Association"
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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2020, 13:35:12 »
hidden agenda then

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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2020, 12:07:33 »
David Berstein stated in 2018:

"The Premier League does pay some monies across to other parts of football but it is nowhere near enough. My view has consistently been that the Premier League should be levied, money should go to the FA, which would be distributed to the wider game and which would make the selling of Wembley unnecessary.

"A Premier League tax if you like. It is a major, major issue. It is something that should be explored and, if necessary, looked at by government."

So I am glad to hear he has prepared alternative independent proposals to the Project Big Picture power grab proposals cooked up in a backroom deal.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/oct/14/david-bernstein-to-call-for-independent-regulation-in-fight-over-football-future

https://theathletic.com/news/premier-league-project-big-picture-latest/aIqc97tPyoIW
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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2020, 13:03:45 »
Man U fixture list for next season has just been announced - here are their first 6 matches
Week 1 - Liverpool - H
Week 2 - Liverpool - A
Week 3 - Liverpool - H
Week 4 - Liverpool - A
Week 5 - Liverpool - H
Week 6 - Liverpool - A

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2020, 18:48:38 »
Rejected as a proposal by all 20 PL clubs - so Utd and Liverpool rejected the proposal they spent 3 years developing. How humiliating.

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2020, 22:08:24 »
It was more that they all agreed that it would never be endorsed rather than the rags and scousers actually voting against their own proposal. Nevertheless what a pair of cunts.

The Blue Blooded Maniac

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2020, 23:25:06 »
Nevertheless what a pair of cunts.

Oh yes, and that's not breaking news!!

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2020, 09:55:17 »
Very pleased this isn’t moving forward, a shameless power grab at a desperate point for the EFL. Two Loathsome clubs instigating it, they should be ashamed but they aren’t.In fact they paint themselves as saviours! Rick Parry needs to be banned from all football his only allegiance is to Liverpool and he’ll move heaven and earth to make them unassailable to the detriment of all others.

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2020, 11:11:43 »
It seems that common sense will prevail

Kilkenny Blue

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2020, 13:33:15 »
Football should never, ever, be in the hands of a select group of 'elite' clubs.  Every club should have the aspiration for promotion, improvement and expansion based on equality and planning.  Isn't this why we have the Monopolies Commission in the private sector? 
It's quite blatant that UEFA pander to a handful of clubs, more than likely due to corruption.  If you look at the FFP timeline and who it's benefited and who's been punished, it's quite clear that it's a protectionist measure.
The whole idea stinks.

The Blue Blooded Maniac

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2020, 14:50:34 »
More shite.

English giants in talks to start a new 'European Premier League' via @OneFootball. Read it here:

https://1.ftb.al/CPMF3hgSJab

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2020, 16:08:38 »
Yes, more breakaway and consolidation of power and money in the hands of a few eleite clubs ruining competitive football. Immediate threat is to the CL but ultimately it will also destroy domestic football.

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2020, 16:59:19 »
Giants... bet they're feeling a bit small atm!
LFC and Utd at it again.

This can't happen. Logistics aside, isn't what they're doing essentially the champs league!?!??!


But let's look at the logistics, they're saying its in addition to the domestic  leagues and cups.
And does that include the Champs league??

So
38 prem
36 Euro league
6 champs (minimum)
2 domestic cups (minimum)

Thats a minimum of 82 games a season. They're gonna fuck themselves over!

Bout time LFC and Utd are voted out the league!

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2020, 21:27:07 »
Yep, chuck them both out and let them play with themselves.

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2020, 07:59:15 »
seems to be a lot going on behind closed doors with FIFA also involved

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Re: Project Big Picture
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2020, 16:39:54 »
dont fix it if it s not broken.